Raw honey

[pargyle]

‘‘Tis the way if the world since social media was invented. A Quick Look in Twitter reassures me that this forum is fairly blameless in that respect.

Perhaps not blameless but certainly less guilty by comparison ...

 

[Hedgerow Honey]

That'll be me then !

However, over a lifetime in business (most of the time MY business) I have discovered that going to court, unless you have a totally cast iron case, is a bit of a lottery. The only people who have a guaranteed win are the lawyers (and I don't begrudge them a penny of their fees). It is an expensive business and an amicable settlement (usually unacceptable to either party) at the earliest opportunity is the best resolution. Sheer bloody-mindedness is never a good reason to invoke a legal process.

Having said that I have been at the receiving end of a totally bloody minded individual, who had no case, who spent virtually nothing persuing something that was complete nonsense, cost me £12k in legal fees and producing evidence, ultimately bringing the case to a Land Registry tribunal, only because there was no other way to permit the sale of a property by winning. Only to have him settle on the day before the hearing on a solution that I had offered 9 months earlier on the day he raised the neighbour boundary dispute. The only consolation ... in the meantime the house went up in value more than it cost me in the delay and legal costs and the people I sold the house to turned out to be his neighbours from hell ... I could not have wished for more.

Sounds like part or the process I went through to obtain a divorce.
The same compromise I offered three years previously was accepted after £7000 in legal fees paid by me.
The other party was funded by legal aid !!!.

 

[Erichalfbee]

No. Be reasonable. The whole kit and caboodle.
Proper Honey
Proper Bees
Proper Beekeeper
Biodynamic
Raw
Pure
Unfiltered
Organically produced
Unheated
Post brood
Virgin comb
Natural comb
Cold extracted
Wild harvested
Pristine single source
Wild floral landscape honey
Micro batched
Non homogenized
Sustainably produced
Bespoke
Artisan
Pot Set

I must have left heaps out.
My labels will need enlarging..

Those of us who keep “satsuma” bees are missing a trick here

 

[Eyeman]

Further elaboration on the term raw by a well known online whole food company.

 

[Murox]

We shouldn’t be surprised. We are all repeatedly told that authenticity and transparency from brands is mandatory. Yet we expect advertisements to be exaggerations, taking any claim with a big pinch of salt. It might be controversial to say it, but I think lying a little bit has become acceptable because everyone is in on the game anyway.

 

[ericbeaumont]

online whole food company

Ocado?

 

[Jules59]

"Post Brood Honey"

TA 26+

https://malfroysgold.com.au/product...0-rGQ5I5lFMtB1ageQY6jvQmjPjPFB6RoC00kQAvD_BwE

incredible prices too

 

[Jules59]

I only advertise my honey as "100% local honey" on a sign by my gate and on the community facebook pages when I can be bothered to login. I dont use any additional terms like "raw" or "pure" on my jar labels
It doesnt happen very often but this week (first time this year) a customer messaged me to ask if my honey was "raw" ?
I explained that raw honey is not well defined and that my honey was unblended, unadulterated, unpasteurised, filtered to remove bits of wax and bee, stored in food grade buckets and finally warmed as necessary to allow jarring up.
She felt that it fitted with her idea of what a raw honey should be, so she bought 5 jars. Job done.

I also showed her around my garden apairy and we watched some of the bees flying around as I chatted about beekeeping. I hope she'll be back for more.

 

[Penninetrader]

I only advertise my honey as "100% local honey" on a sign by my gate and on the community facebook pages when I can be bothered to login. I dont use any additional terms like "raw" or "pure" on my jar labels
It doesnt happen very often but this week (first time this year) a customer messaged me to ask if my honey was "raw" ?
I explained that raw honey is not well defined and that my honey was unblended, unadulterated, unpasteurised, filtered to remove bits of wax and bee, stored in food grade buckets and finally warmed as necessary to allow jarring up.
She felt that it fitted with her idea of what a raw honey should be, so she bought 5 jars. Job done.

I also showed her around my garden apairy and we watched some of the bees flying around as I chatted about beekeeping. I hope she'll be back for more.

I would guess that to be a certainty if your honey tastes OK

 

[fian]

I would guess that to be a certainty if your honey tastes OK

Flavor is a subjective criterion, so I don't know how honey could be considered to have a bad taste. Furthermore, honey, being a by-product of the seasonal collection of various nectars, can contain many more nuances than an industrialized solution of sweet syrups and benzene compounds of flavor and smell.

 

[BeeKeyPlayer]

Flavor is a subjective criterion, so I don't know how honey could be considered to have a bad taste.

If lots of people were to tell you that they didn't find the taste of your honey pleasant, you could say, each to his/her own. But it would be unwise to take the ostrich approach if you depended on sales.

 

[Eyeman]

Ocado?

Buy Wholefoods Online​

 

[Erichalfbee]

Buy Wholefoods Online​

I do get quite a few things from them…… but not honey

 

[Newbeeneil]

I do get quite a few things from them…… but not honey

Same here, just putting together my latest order for about £50 worth of nuts and seeds!

 

[fian]

If lots of people were to tell you that they didn't find the taste of your honey pleasant, you could say, each to his/her own. But it would be unwise to take the ostrich approach if you depended on sales.

Since I have been with hives I have collected honeys with many nuances (extremely sweet, salty, bitter, sour) so I always tell my clients that each year is different and that if they are not happy with the flavor they can return the jar to me. At the moment 0 returns for this reason. I had to change some jars for a client because there was granulation (it was a year in which I let the turnip green plants bloom in March). Those jars ended up being sold to someone who specifically asked me for the honey to be granulated.

 

[ericbeaumont]

Further elaboration on the term raw by a well known online whole food company.

That definition of 'raw' is no more meaningful than any other, but digs itself a deeper hole by claiming health benefits.

Curious to know whether liberal use of the word 'organic' is supported by EU, Bulgarian or Estonian certification on the back labels.
https://www.buywholefoodsonline.co.uk/honey

For example, regs. relating to honey imported into the EU from Chile detail 8 organisations qualified to authorise the organic status of honey.
https://agriculture.ec.europa.eu/farming/organic-farming/trade/agreements-trade-organic-products_en

Plenty of Bulgarian certification companies out there. https://m.facebook.com/@BGbio/

 

[Penninetrader]

Flavor is a subjective criterion, so I don't know how honey could be considered to have a bad taste. Furthermore, honey, being a by-product of the seasonal collection of various nectars, can contain many more nuances than an industrialized solution of sweet syrups and benzene compounds of flavor and smell.

My comment was in no way negative

 

[fian]

My comment was in no way negative

At no time did I understand your comment as negative regarding my honey, I simply want to make it clear that the supposed lack of flavor must be compensated with a low price, which is more likely in adulterated honeys or industrial syrups.