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Hi John,
No victimisation from me .. I think your invention is an effective and well thought out delivery method for sublimating OA. I'm going to make one ! But ... You are being a bit naive suggesting that the 'purchaser' of the product has sole responsibility for it's safe use. Whilst we are not in the same litigious society as the USA yet we are rapidly following in pursuit - why do you think McDonalds put the 'hot liquid' warning on their coffee cups ? It's bloody obvious but purchasers need/have to be warned.
You need to look very closely at the regulations that cover any products that are sold in the UK (and currently EU) - and the manufacturer's liability. Look at the reams of 'H&S' instructions that are included with virtually any product that, if used incorrectly, can cause harm. Some of them you would think are just common sense but the reason they are there is because the manufacturer (and indirectly) the retailer face being sued to the point of extinction if an idiot does something stupid. The Health & Safety executive get involved and the next thing you find you are facing a criminal prosecution for 'lack of duty of care to the Public'... look up the potential prison sentence !
I've been in the dock when one of my employees did something stupid and devoid of any common sense - he died - I ended up on the wrong end of the prosecution and was left with no option but to plead guilty. The basic premise of the HSE is that you need to prove that you took ALL REASONABLE PRECAUTIONS to prevent what happened - and the reality is that even when you have - (and I HAD !) if you can't trust the person to have fully understood what they are supposed to do ... YOU are guilty.
From your viewpoint I would be taking some very serious advice about the legality of what you intend bringing to market and more importantly how you ensure that it is used safely by the purchaser. Nobody on here would wish you anything but the greatest success with the sublimator you are making and selling but you are not in China selling something on ebay and shipping it from the other side of the world. You are in the UK (and currently EU) manufacturing and selling - you need to be aware of the risks you face.
Me ? .. I'm not qualiified to give you any further advice - you need some specialist assistance. What you are making has the potential to kill or maime .. be careful please.
No victimisation from me .. I think your invention is an effective and well thought out delivery method for sublimating OA. I'm going to make one ! But ... You are being a bit naive suggesting that the 'purchaser' of the product has sole responsibility for it's safe use. Whilst we are not in the same litigious society as the USA yet we are rapidly following in pursuit - why do you think McDonalds put the 'hot liquid' warning on their coffee cups ? It's bloody obvious but purchasers need/have to be warned.
You need to look very closely at the regulations that cover any products that are sold in the UK (and currently EU) - and the manufacturer's liability. Look at the reams of 'H&S' instructions that are included with virtually any product that, if used incorrectly, can cause harm. Some of them you would think are just common sense but the reason they are there is because the manufacturer (and indirectly) the retailer face being sued to the point of extinction if an idiot does something stupid. The Health & Safety executive get involved and the next thing you find you are facing a criminal prosecution for 'lack of duty of care to the Public'... look up the potential prison sentence !
I've been in the dock when one of my employees did something stupid and devoid of any common sense - he died - I ended up on the wrong end of the prosecution and was left with no option but to plead guilty. The basic premise of the HSE is that you need to prove that you took ALL REASONABLE PRECAUTIONS to prevent what happened - and the reality is that even when you have - (and I HAD !) if you can't trust the person to have fully understood what they are supposed to do ... YOU are guilty.
From your viewpoint I would be taking some very serious advice about the legality of what you intend bringing to market and more importantly how you ensure that it is used safely by the purchaser. Nobody on here would wish you anything but the greatest success with the sublimator you are making and selling but you are not in China selling something on ebay and shipping it from the other side of the world. You are in the UK (and currently EU) manufacturing and selling - you need to be aware of the risks you face.
Me ? .. I'm not qualiified to give you any further advice - you need some specialist assistance. What you are making has the potential to kill or maime .. be careful please.