Commercial links

[Pete D]

I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the hilt your right to say it...
Now who was it that said that?

The peoples popular front of Judea.............

 

[Tom Bick]

The peoples popular front of Judea.............

Splitters

 

[Black Comb]

For the newer members here as I understand it originally if the monthly target cost was met then there was no need to contribute, "this" month at least.

The word subscription is misleading, it's an ask for a contribution to meet a monthly financial target, which as far as I know, has always been met, for the past 2 years plus at least. There never has been any pressure to contribute financially if you did not want to. Mark did not set up the forum in this way.

So to then jump to call it a subscription is against the ethos of this forum.

 

[Headnavigator]

For the newer members here as I understand it originally if the monthly target cost was met then there was no need to contribute, "this" month at least.

The word subscription is misleading, it's an ask for a contribution to meet a monthly financial target, which as far as I know, has always been met, for the past 2 years plus at least. There never has been any pressure to contribute financially if you did not want to. Mark did not set up the forum in this way.

So to then jump to call it a subscription is against the ethos of this forum.

Then if we all keep our hands in our pockets . . . . . . . . .?
It's beginning to smell a little of the dear chaps who bugger off to the loo saying "Mine's a pint, mate," whenever it looks as though they might be expected to buy their round.
Sorry - a bit off topic, but analogous to the round-skivers expecting to dictate what everyone else should drink, innit?

 

[Winker]

For the newer members here as I understand it originally if the monthly target cost was met then there was no need to contribute, "this" month at least.

The word subscription is misleading, it's an ask for a contribution to meet a monthly financial target, which as far as I know, has always been met, for the past 2 years plus at least. There never has been any pressure to contribute financially if you did not want to. Mark did not set up the forum in this way.

So to then jump to call it a subscription is against the ethos of this forum.

Peter you like a dog with a bone! I agreed with you many many posts ago that Subscrition was the wrong word of choise. It was used as throw away term. Dont get Hung up on Single words in a whole topic. For the record I admit you are more literary educated than me I made a bad choice of words you have punished me enough so lets move on

 

[Black Comb]

Then if we all keep our hands in our pockets . . . . . . . . .?
It's beginning to smell a little of the dear chaps who bugger off to the loo saying "Mine's a pint, mate," whenever it looks as though they might be expected to buy their round.
Sorry - a bit off topic, but analogous to the round-skivers expecting to dictate what everyone else should drink, innit?

Whether you like it or Not that is the way it was. I've contributed in the past and will in the future.

 

[Headnavigator]

PeterS it wasn't a dig at you personally, I apologise, clumsily put if it looked as though it was.

 

[simonf]

I know that some posters on this forum are into beekeeping in a big way, and it is a business to them ie, hive makers queen sellers etc, I would like to know who does what, so I wouldn't mind if they had a link in there posts that would take me to there web page.

 

[Winker]

I know that some posters on this forum are into beekeeping in a big way, and it is a business to them ie, hive makers queen sellers etc, I would like to know who does what, so I wouldn't mind if they had a link in there posts that would take me to there web page.

Start by looking at the top right hand corner of the forum, then click on beekeeping directory, it works honest

 

[Winker]

I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the hilt your right to say it...
Now who was it that said that?

Evelyn Beatrice Hall, who wrote under the pseudonym S.G. Tallentyre


and if i remember correctly it was "defend to the death" but i could be wrong

 

[VEG]

Why not go all the way and have a separate forum for the people who pay and those that dont.

 

[hedgerow pete]

As a person who could, if I was so minded, put up a lot of commercial links, I have to say I am happy with the way things are.

When you join this forum the protocols are clear. This is a site about beekeeping and matters surrounding it and NOT a selling opportunity.

I appreciate this leaves shades of grey in between those who would abuse that, and those who have empty enough lives to indulge in pedantry about very minor issues on the outer fringes of commercialism.

Leaving the situation to admin to decide seems to work well and should be left alone. No system is perfect and no system will eliminate all gripes. C'est la vie. You join the club you play by the existing rules. Period.


ps....voted 'undecided' as I do not feel it a matter I should vote on, as I am quite plainly something of a 'cuckoo in the nest' in this place.

i would have to say you are the largest cockoo i have ever seen lol

as for me i prefere non ads and no links , i deal with one web forum and the one guys signature is about a foot long of stuff he is selling

 

[Winker]

Why not go all the way and have a separate forum for the people who pay and those that dont.

Cause looking at the way the free loaders have voted above, a split of the forum like that would mean you would have to have advertising to pay for the upkeep for the free forum and they don't want that as per the poll above.

Its a win win situation for the people who don't pay towards the running of the boards. They get to enjoy a advert/commercial free forum but don't have to pay for it to stay that way, but they still get a vote to keep it that way.

 

[VEG]

The forum asks for donations it does not tell you to donate. As you can see by your own posts it seems to make you think you have far more rights over others.

 

[tonybloke]

Cause looking at the way the free loaders have voted above, a split of the forum like that would mean you would have to have advertising to pay for the upkeep for the free forum and they don't want that as per the poll above.

Its a win win situation for the people who don't pay towards the running of the boards. They get to enjoy a advert/commercial free forum but don't have to pay for it to stay that way, but they still get a vote to keep it that way.

less of the 'Free loaders' please!!

a lot of folk have contributed in the past, ( the forum has been running for a while, now) and probably will again, but if the forum banner states 'target achieved this month' there's no need to at the moment.

those who want fully commercial site, why not go and create one?

this one is fine as it is, leave it alone.

 

[Winker]

The forum asks for donations it does not tell you to donate. As you can see by your own posts it seems to make you think you have far more rights over others.

without those dontations the site would need to be paid for by comercial adverts. yes or no?

 

[VEG]

I'm not disputing the fact that forum needs donations to run its the terms you are coming out with such as "free loaders" and claiming to have paid for your vote. The forum could quite easily have adverts by putting the ads in a link such as the beekeeping directory, which contains links to commercial companies.

 

[AnotherNewBee]

I trust the thread "Cheap fuel" will be removed as it is blatantly commercial.

 

[Winker]

less of the 'Free loaders' please!!

a lot of folk have contributed in the past, ( the forum has been running for a while, now) and probably will again, but if the forum banner states 'target achieved this month' there's no need to at the moment.

those who want fully commercial site, why not go and create one?

this one is fine as it is, leave it alone.

Tony no offence was meant by that, if that's how you took it, then so be it. I cant change how your going to read my comments, but unless i state otherwise i mean no offence by anything i type. The fact that its words and no human expression behind them does not help, but trust me im smiling while i type and just enjoy debiting things. If you feel im putting my self over as being more important, well again that’s how it may come across by reading it, but if you were talking to me face to face im sure that’s not how you would be perceiving it. Im not a Doctor/teacher/scientist im an everyday country lad who types as I would talk. So please excuse my lack of literacy and take it as its meant to be taken….In good faith!

No one is saying it has to be fully commercial. were only talking about the links people are posting. My point is that stared out links to something that is useful to the readers just does not make sense. Many a time i have went to click on a link here only to find its unusable. Then when i google it the list of possible sites are way too long to look through. Time is not on my side to go trolling through possible sites to find what is being discussed.

 

[Winker]

I'm not disputing the fact that forum needs donations to run its the terms you are coming out with such as "free loaders" and claiming to have paid for your vote. The forum could quite easily have adverts by putting the ads in a link such as the beekeeping directory, which contains links to commercial companies.

Again you assume my words are hostile. I have a point of view, its been said/typed in a style that would reflect the way i would talk to you face to face. It may not be politically correct at times, but politics is not my thing either so bite me

My view stands, Those who are current contributors to the up-keep of the forum, should have a bigger say on matters of this topic.

My view is not down to the fact I am a current contributor. Even if I did not have the tag for it on my avatar my view would be the same.