To treat or not for varroa

[Finman]

, not that I'm bothered about other peoples attitudes towards their bees.

Chris

and you are a right person to tell that. I bet that you need a graduation of phsychiathre.
Otherwise I think that you try are to insult me.

These guys I do not call propell heads. They are flower hat heads.


All who come to say to me, how I spend my only life, I will kick to arse.
This is my sustainability program.

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[Andy Duff]

and you are a right person to tell that. I bet that you need a graduation of phsychiathre.
Otherwise I think that you try are to insult me.

These guys I do not call propell heads. They are flower hat heads.


All who come to say to me, how I spend my only life, I will kick to arse.
This is my sustainability program.

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rofl:

 

[Finman]

Love to nature or what is it called..

At the age of 3 we had one own cow. I use to pick black beetles into iron jars.
That is my first sign of nature "love".

Then I collected bird eggs, I learned to distinquish bird songs in wildernes and their nests .
I collected butterflies. I started gardening hobby and nurse flowers.
I have two green houses.
I studied biology in university.
I have had bees 50 years.
I have had varroa 30 years.


Then some one come to say to me, that you should love nature.
I have a wrong attitude to varroa.
I shoudl not get big yields and not to keep bees for money.
I should be really really really sustainable..

Ok. I know that I cannot win stupid in debating. But NEXT!

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[Chris Luck]

Rock on Finman, as I said I'm not bothered how other people keep their insects, my only concern is how I live my life...

....but I'm with Andy, starting the day with a good laugh can't be bad and if your life is hard I'm sorry for that....

....still, I see Finland is talking about leaving the Euro, that should make you happy.

Chris

 

[Chris Luck]

Actually Finman I doubt you could keep bees in Finland without treating them for varroa.

Here it's different and I think I've made my reasoning clear.

Chris

 

[Finman]

....still, I see Finland is talking about leaving the Euro, that should make you happy.

Chris

first, Finland is not leaving Euro. it is just game to get votes from stupid folks
it has brought lots of votes back to Social Democratic Party.
Our role is only 3% in EU.

Our economy goes somehow. Difficulties continues. On local level like in town's tax incomes go in low level.
Life is getting harder. State rises its taxes like in fuel, energy, even in sugar and environmental taxes. What ever they invent.


why I should be happy?

You are again offering your attitudes. When about varroa, then about euro, and earning money.


What is the diffence between Lexus and Renault?
It is more beautifull to cry on the seat of Lexus.

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[Finman]

Actually Finman I doubt you could keep bees in Finland without treating them for varroa.

Here it's different and I think I've made my reasoning clear.

Chris

never mind. I do not know you even if we meet on the street of Paris.

I have 30 years experience about varroa. It shoud be enough but it is not. Figure is changing.

Our main menthor wrote 3 years ago that varroa is so well in controll that he stops writing about it.
But now mite has been bursted so badly that he organized a new research what is going on.
One experienced beekeeper lost every single hive out of 150 this year. And many many did the same.

To give advices from France does not work. Everyone has it own hives. I know your advices: DO NOTHING!.

 

[Ely]

I pick them off bee by bee during inspection.

 

[cjhart2]

I have had bees 50 years.
I have had varroa 30 years.


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Hi Finman , this is a genuine question .
Do you have any wild honey bees or ferral honey bees in Finland ?
I have looked on the net but I am having difficulty getting a definitive answer . Ever Country is different , just wondered if it is a climate issue .

From a different stand point , from your experience , is the problem getting worse , are the treatments no longer working ? With you friend losing 150 hives , what do you think is happening ? Just interested in you point of view .

 

[Chris Luck]

To give advices from France does not work. Everyone has it own hives. I know your advices: DO NOTHING!.

Hey, hold on a minute, I haven't given anyone advice.

What I have said is what happens here in France and have provided the evidence from INRA..

Ranked the number one agricultural institute in Europe and number two in the world, INRA carries out mission-oriented research for high-quality and healthy foods, competitive and sustainable agriculture and a preserved and valorised environment.

http://www.international.inra.fr/the_institute/

How people choose to keep their insects is up to them!!!!!

I also think as I have said that it probably isn't possible to keep bees in Finland without treatments and other measures that wouldn't apply in France.

Chris

 

[meidel]

i would still like to know what propel or propell heads are though and when you call them flower hat heads - do you mean *numties?

numty - English colloquialism for an idiot

 

[Finman]

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I thought that propel head is an international term...


But it means a DYI innovator whose ideas are running in the head like a propel.
They tend to make the wold better to live.

 

[Chris Luck]

Propeller?

Chris

 

[Luminos]

A propeller head is a BMW enthusiast

 

[meidel]

A propeller head is a BMW enthusiast

not to be confused with petrol heads

 

[farbee]

Not so long ago it was "accepted wisdom" that kids routinely had their tonsils and adenoids removed as it was "better for them" - nowadays it's pretty rare - it takes time for orthodoxy to be overturned - it tends to be the "awkward squad" who ask these questions, like "why rip out perfectly healthy tissue? - certainly my parents were viewed as (at the very least) "odd" because they insisted mine were left intact......

Actually things have changed again and the numbers of tonsils being removed has gone up more recently. The policy changes due to a number of factors such has new research/evidence and finance.;
I know my children have benefited greatly by having them removed.

 

[Dishmop]

Finman said "It kills mites which violate winter bee brood."
The queen in my observation hive stopped laying about the beginning of Novemeber and there was no brood from sometime near the end of November until spring...when the queen started laying again.. or are things different for ordinary hives outside?

 

[Chris Luck]

It may be different in Finland. I don't know where Finman keeps his bees, this is Helsinki.

http://www.gaisma.com/en/location/helsinki.html

Chris

 

[tonybloke]

Finman said "It kills mites which violate winter bee brood."
The queen in my observation hive stopped laying about the beginning of Novemeber and there was no brood from sometime near the end of November until spring...when the queen started laying again.. or are things different for ordinary hives outside?

your situation was probably caused by how you manage your observation hive throughout the year.

colonies in 'ordinary' hives outdoors have room to store a lot more pollen, vital for egg production and brood rearing, and go on laying a lot later than that, and a lot don't actually have a total brood break at all.

 

[Haughton Honey]

A propeller head (also spelled propellor head, and sometimes shortened to 'prop head' or 'prophead') is jargon for someone who is exceptionally, perhaps weirdly bright or knowledgeable, especially in some technical field. In computers it is a synonym for a computer geek . The term refers to the child's beanie cap that comes with a spinning propeller sticking out of the top.