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[Finman]

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What I first want to tell to you, dear Great Britain Beekeepers, the Beekeeping is guite global job.

I use to pick usefull knowledge from what ever. Like pollen patty knowledge from USA, Egypt, Austaralia, NZ.

How I know that I succeed? ...If have I have 20 frames of brood in the hive, and nature has no pollen yet, I can see that I have really succeeded.


National hive in Germany

 

[Finman]

£30 for 2lbs of untreated honeycomb ... no extraction, no jars, just a see through cardboard box. Not a bad return.

Naturally Granulated rape honey...That is a gold mine!
Remember my flower bunch calculation $500 000 / 3 summer months!


Here is Irish comb honey €19.50 http://www.terroirs.ie/gourmet-food/honeys/irish-comb-honey#.UrQyYK3xtjo

Is it £40/kg

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[jenkinsbrynmair]

my local farm shop has 150gm (5.3 oz in old money) of cut comb selling at £8.99 and sell out as fast as they get it in.

may have to think about my price ranges for next year - at that rate it's a no-brainer why waste money producing and extracting honey when the return is much better by selling it in the comb

Forget more honey more honey

try:

MORE WAX MORE BUCKS
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[Finman]

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Comb honey, from one hive!

 

[pargyle]

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Comb honey, from one hive!

Wow ... 302 pieces of comb honey x £16.30 (ie: EU19.50) = £4922.60 from one hive !!

 

[Finman]

Wow ... 302 pieces of comb honey x £16.30 (ie: EU19.50) = £4922.60 from one hive !!

Well, now. Do I have Christmast feelings in my heart!

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[Itchy]

Thinking about topping up your pension fund Pargyle?

 

[Itchy]

I like the little box that the Irish honey is in, what's that called?

 

[VEG]

Itchy they are called section cases from big t £20 for 50

 

[Itchy]

Thanks Craig...I assume easier to harvest than cut comb? Bet they smell great too!

 

[pargyle]

Thinking about topping up your pension fund Pargyle?

Ha Ha .... if anyone thinks they can make a fortune out of beekeeping in the UK ... or even a decent living then it's time they think again ! There has to be easier and more certain ways to increase your income. I'd be happy to break even on my modest investment and cover the costs .... if I get a bit of nice honey for myself on the way through then my objectives are met ...

Actually, if you drill down into Finman's photo you find that it was actually a TWO QUEEN hive that produced that massive crop and in the USA so probably stuck in a huge field of monoculture as well: Some interesting text on the site though and worth a read:

http://www.beebehavior.com

 

[VEG]

Itchy have a look here http://www.beebehavior.com/hogg_cassettes.php

 

[Finman]

Ha Ha ....
Actually, if you drill down into Finman's photo you find that it was actually a TWO QUEEN hive that produced that massive crop and in the USA

You are right. Bees need huge nectar fields. Good yields comes from good pastures + good weathers 25C...

We have here only monoculture on fields spring rape.
When rape cultivations is a mystery for next summer by necotioids. It may be a catastrophe to the most of beekeepers.

My yields have been 60% rape honey during last 35 years, and now I must find new pastures. Autumn rape is too early to get real yields. Too cool weathers. Temps under 20C.

My secret is not 2 queen hives. I join weak hives for main flow and take another queen off.

Let's say, my secret is half queen hive, or queenless hive during main flow.

But back to the headline. I give to each hive 2 boxes of foundatios during main flow and 5 box hive draws them during one week. No need to encourage hives.

It keeps their swarming fever off too.


My bet is that you have in Britain too much hives to shear same pastures. That is why yield level is low.
A hive catch a huge yield during one week, if they can pick full nectar flowers. But if bees visit every 10 second in flower, they get only flying fuel from flowers.

5 bees/ square yard is far too much. 1 per 100 square yard sounds good.

one hive / 4 hectares turnip rape. That is good.

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[victor meldrew]

Thanks Craig...I assume easier to harvest than cut comb? Bet they smell great too!

Nooo!,
Bees are reluctant to fill sections . Usually they are reserved for heather honey , logic being ,as they require a large workforce and restricted space (to force them to fill available space) heather time is late in the swarming calendar ,when one can take liberties with overcrowding ! Bees however do swarm on the heather .
I would stick with cut comb until I had spare capacity of both hives and bees to experiment with.
VM


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[victor meldrew]

Also , heather honey does not granulate, adding to the attractiveness of the finished product .
VM


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[Erichalfbee]

Itchy have a look here http://www.beebehavior.com/hogg_cassettes.php

Heavens.......does it really work?
Thanks for the link.

I managed one super of cut comb this year. I quite like cutting it up and making chunk honey from the offcuts.......much prefer it to spinning honey off.

 

[VEG]

Not so messy either I presume


Craig

 

[Hivemaker.]

Not so messy either I presume
Craig

Cutting out heather combs is not really a messy job.

 

[Finman]

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Sounds easy job. Just for beginners.
The price tells that it is a proper for "do nothing -style" beekeepers too.

 

[Itchy]

Thanks Veg, all interesting stuff...