No thanks...

[jenkinsbrynmair]

You haven't posted for a while - so what post is this in relation to? Don't go, let's just thrash this out!

 

[VEG]

The OP has logged out hopefully not for good

 

[Tom Bick]

People I am all for good forum etiquette but please don’t all get too carried away I say again the op never mentioned an abusive PM?

 

[MonseigneurBienvenu]

True, no abuse was mentioned, someone just decided to PM with a "you are wrong" sort of comment, which caused upset.

 

[MuswellMetro]

You haven't posted for a while - so what post is this in relation to? Don't go, let's just thrash this out!

think it must relate to this post

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=330334#post330334

possiblly someone has objected to queen59 saying her queen bees mate in the morning ....well i've seen mine mate at 11:00, 1:00 and 3:00..in london's microclimate and i expect South Devon is warmer that london in the morning

 

[theeggman]

Please folks PM the OP and ask them to stay and name the total s**t in question.

This forum is based on us being open even when we've got it totally wrong and are looking for help.

If the PM'er can't put their views in public do WE want them on here?

Tim

 

[psafloyd]

QUEENS59, DON'T GO. Stay and let's play nicely.

 

[HM Honey]

I feel for the OP, I really do but there IS a small element of some "senior" "more experienced" beeks who occasionally make newbees feel stupid or unwelcome.

I suffered it a small amount when I first started and only the other day, I found myself trying to reassure a newbee after she had received what she felt was a sarcastic response to a question.

I don't know if the sarcasm is always intended but its easy to forget that when someone has just started the hobby, it is very daunting and scary when something happens that's out of the ordinary. And also that newbees (me especially) sometimes ask daft questions.

All that said, PM'ing someone to argue is just darn right out of order....

 

[MandF]

The OP said they received a "nasty" pm, and as I said there is too much of that on here from a small minority.

I dont mind a heated debate, but hounding someone via PM is unnecessary - its bad enough when it is unwarranted on an open thread.

 

[enrico]

But sometimes doing it in public is even more demeaning!
Just a thought! And no it wasn't me!

 

[MandF]

I feel for the OP, I really do but there IS a small element of some "senior" "more experienced" beeks who occasionally make newbees feel stupid or unwelcome.

I suffered it a small amount when I first started and only the other day, I found myself trying to reassure a newbee after she had received what she felt was a sarcastic response to a question.

I don't know if the sarcasm is always intended but its easy to forget that when someone has just started the hobby, it is very daunting and scary when something happens that's out of the ordinary. And also that newbees (me especially) sometimes ask daft questions.

All that said, PM'ing someone to argue is just darn right out of order....

Oh, I am pretty sure the sarcasm is always intended.

 

[HM Honey]

But sometimes doing it in public is even more demeaning!
Just a thought! And no it wasn't me!

The point is though enrico, is that there is no need to do it at all....

If you disagree with something that someone says, then by all means post your opinion and back it up with reason and facts.... no one would find that demeaning..

The fact is that people join the forum to express opinions and get advise....not be made to feel stupid...

if someone thought the op was incorrect (which we all are sometimes) and felt the need to PM them about it, fine, but it should have been a case of "I think you might be incorrect, and this is why....", not a nasty PM like the OP appears to have received.

 

[MuswellMetro]

I feel for the OP, I really do but there IS a small element of some "senior" "more experienced" beeks who occasionally make newbees feel stupid or unwelcome.

I suffered it a small amount when I first started and only the other day, I found myself trying to reassure a newbee after she had received what she felt was a sarcastic response to a question.

I don't know if the sarcasm is always intended but its easy to forget that when someone has just started the hobby, it is very daunting and scary when something happens that's out of the ordinary. And also that newbees (me especially) sometimes ask daft questions.

All that said, PM'ing someone to argue is just darn right out of order....

HM:H, i am as guilty as most on here of saying things in print that look far worse to the OP than I intended

I for that reason post less now but on a recent post i added just "I agree, what books do they read" but now think have may have been a bit OTT for the OP

However, i have been on the opposite end of sarcastic comments on AGW...and it does hurt

 

[enrico]

The point is though enrico, is that there is no need to do it at all....

If you disagree with something that someone says, then by all means post your opinion and back it up with reason and facts.... no one would find that demeaning..

The fact is that people join the forum to express opinions and get advise....not be made to feel stupid...

if someone thought the op was incorrect (which we all are sometimes) and felt the need to PM them about it, fine, but it should have been a case of "I think you might be incorrect, and this is why....", not a nasty PM like the OP appears to have received.

I agree totally.....
No argument from here.
Even some of us that 'think' we have experience get upset by some comments.
There is never reason to be rude, and there is always reason to be sympathetic to those that are learning, I remember those days only too well, I hope I will always be learning!
I also understand that words in print can be read very differently to the way they were written and am also guilty of not only sounding demeaning when I never meant to be but to think that others have been rude to me when they were not!
As in beekeeping sometimes patience and understanding is the key!
Keep smiling everyone!
Sorry post crossed with muswells saying the same thing!

 

[itma]

Please don't go.
I think you should post whatever it was that has offended you, and lets see if we can all sort the thing out.

 

[Ely]

Eeee, calm down, tis only the t'internet

 

[RogueDrone]

The message is alway the perception of the reciever.

So what is written is read the same.

 

[richardbees]

Queens -

please don't leave, it just means some snivelling git has won!

sending an abusive PM is cowardly - and needs tar and feathering...

.....who was it?

 

[beekim]

i agree

You haven't posted for a while - so what post is this in relation to? Don't go, let's just thrash this out!

Im with the mad welsh man sort itb out us beekeepers need all the support we can get

 

[Tabby15]

Don't go. Us new bees need people who are not sarcastic or judgmental (and those like HMHoney who give reassurance) stay and help make it a more tolerant place.