Ley-lines and bees

[Ely]

Interesting comments.

My sister is the Special Educational needs coordinator in the school she teaches in and because of that I often come across articles in this broad area which I think might interest her and pass these on. One of these articles highlighted that dyslexia is virtually unknown in the non-English speaking world...... an example of language affecting the way we understand the world?

There is a lot more to dyslexia than language. It affects focus, concentration, coordination, tiredness and much more. I think it is more likely that the english speaking world puts more focus on diagnosis

 

[Teemore]

There is a lot more to dyslexia than language. It affects focus, concentration, coordination, tiredness and much more. I think it is more likely that the english speaking world puts more focus on diagnosis

Quite true about the breadth of the characteristics of dyslexia. I did not feel the need to reflect upon them all here as I was hijacking the thread somewhat.

Is it really likely that the European countries involved in the research are less focused upon diagnosis?

 

[REDWOOD]

When I see planes flying in the sky by wings designed by calculations of physics, that is all the proof I need that scientific theory is not just an idea.

Ha just like a bird so you are a creationist

 

[REDWOOD]

Something different
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MliWcu0GoxM

 

[Finman]

. One of these articles highlighted that dyslexia is virtually unknown in the non-English speaking world?

Really....I know that in Sweden and in Finland dyslexia is very much studied. I brother who is musician, he has identyfyed dyslexia children 20 years. He can hear from children's voice tune, when he/she understand what he reads. When children does not understand the text, the reading comes like from robot.

Look from google 'international conference of dyslexia 2014'...who are there

 

[Ely]

When I see planes flying in the sky by wings designed by calculations of physics, that is all the proof I need that scientific theory is not just an idea.

Ha just like a bird so you are a creationist

Nope. The same or similar calculation s can be made to explain why a bird can fly. Nothing to do with creationalism. I believe in evolution not creationalism

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I believe in evolution not creationalism

Well, the aeroplane has evolved quite a bit since it was invented over a century ago - needed a helping hand though

 

[Excession]

An 'open mind' is something that is often brought up when there is a lack of evidence.

Actually an open mind leaves you susceptible to lies, misdirection, and misinformation.

A sceptical mind serves you much better. You get to challenge the information and let evidence convince you of its truth.

The idea that something exists without any evidence is literally nonsense. It can always be proved eventually, or the discoveries made in trying to prove it can unequivocally disprove it.

Ley lines have never been proven, and all the efforts expended to prove them has provided enough evidence for the scientific community to discredit the notion. Something they do not do without a wealth of evidence.

 

[REDWOOD]

Nope. The same or similar calculation s can be made to explain why a bird can fly. Nothing to do with creationalism. I believe in evolution not creationalism

So let me get this right !
A plane was Created using mathematical calculations and a bird evolved using no mathematical calculations, so what calculation can we use that put a bird in flight, just curious.

 

[user 6228]

So let me get this right !
A plane was Created using mathematical calculations and a bird evolved using no mathematical calculations, so what calculation can we use that put a bird in flight, just curious.

note the word "explain" in his post.

I ride a bicycle without doing calcs on conservation of rotational inertia and energy.
I run forward to catch the ball without calculation of the ordinary differential equation yet still finding a solution.
But I park my car using the conscious knowledge of the application Fermi-Dirac statistics where as previously i did it subconsciously

 

[Ely]

Obviously not understanding any of my points. Science worked out the physics of how a bird can fly and used that knowledge. If the physics weren't definate and life the universe and everything were forever changing mystical powers designed by spirits in the sky then planes would be falling out of the sky like flies.

Although lately that does seem to be happening

 

[REDWOOD]

note the word "explain" in his post.

I ride a bicycle without doing calcs on conservation of rotational inertia and energy.
I run forward to catch the ball without calculation of the ordinary differential equation yet still finding a solution.
But I park my car using the conscious knowledge of the application Fermi-Dirac statistics where as previously i did it subconsciously

On learning to ride a bike and catch a ball I think your brain did the calculations and still does and the same with birds but what mathematical calculations made it evolve so it could fly ?

 

[Ely]

The calculations are a language of understanding. Not a force to make something happen

 

[REDWOOD]

The calculations are a language of understanding. Not a force to make something happen

My thoughts entirely

 

[Ely]

Then I do not understand the point you were making from the off

 

[user 6228]

On learning to ride a bike and catch a ball I think your brain did the calculations and still does and the same with birds but what mathematical calculations made it evolve so it could fly ?

the brain does no calculations its just a patterned response...

 

[Tremyfro]

The brain gets bypassed when doing activities such as catching a ball, running, riding a bike etc. The electrical impulses go to the spinal column and back. That is why a person who has suffered a stroke...can learn to walk again. Nothing to do with conscious thought. A bird can fly...fab. What is incredible, is that a creature, which can't fly, has worked out the aerodynamics, an engine to power it and guide and control a plane which can be made to fly......well done human brain.

 

[Ely]

Surely there must be a decision process of whether you want to catch the ball or not?

 

[Excession]

This is a really good read on a rational approach to dowsing:

http://www.skepdic.com/dowsing.html

An extract on skeptical thinking:

Most dowsers do not consider it important to doubt their dowsing powers or to wonder if they are self-deceived. They never consider doing a controlled scientific test of their powers. They think that the fact that they have been successful over the years at dowsing is proof enough. When dowsers are scientifically tested and fail, they generally react with genuine surprise. Typical is what happened when James Randi tested some dowsers using a protocol they all agreed upon. If they could locate water in underground pipes at an 80% success rate they would get $10,000 (now the prize is over $1,000,000). All the dowsers failed the test, though each claimed to be highly successful in finding water using a variety of non-scientific instruments, including a pendulum. Says Randi, "the sad fact is that dowsers are no better at finding water than anyone else. Drill a well almost anywhere in an area where water is geologically possible, and you will find it."

But the nice touch is the people making money out of it... Normally at other people expense!

 

[REDWOOD]

Surely there must be a decision process of whether you want to catch the ball or not?

How many times did you blink typing the last sentence without a decision process. You teach an infant to catch a ball and every time a ball is thrown that infant will catch it so later on in life if a ball is thrown at that person it will catch it.