Front Cover of Welsh Beekeeper

[BMH]

I would but I’m not a member.



Or a member.

Dont think that matters. Just say they are really dark bees and they'll print it

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[SDM]

The wbka is an umbrella for its constituent associations, all of which are individually representative of their members, the vast majority of whom are against importing bees, this I believe is a documented fact. What more justification should the mouthpiece of the wbka have for representing this watered down recommendation on the front of their magazine?
I suppose it should bow to the few who import directly and believe they're above the common herd in your opinion, or the pressure from defra to keep open borders to Europe or succumb to the lobbyingof the very few who make a living importing bees, how wicked of the wbka to actually try and be representative of the majority of its membership, they must have a trolling Taliban agenda or somesuch.

I believe there was an article on wbka membership a year or 2 ago that mentioned the rates of new members coming and how long they stayed. Which would put your "vast majority" as beekeepers with less than 5 years beekeeping and zero experience of other races as they were indoctrinated as is the manner of all wbka training.
If we were talking about a vast majority who'd formed their opinions through personal experience or unbiased education, you'd have a point. But a majority of mindless automatons holds no authority whatsoever

 

[For want of a better word]

Your problem Dave is you cannot debate with facts so resort to personal abuse.
You are becoming "the Amm are best movement;s " worst enemy.


,,,you may need a while to work that one out...particularly if you have been on the mead again

And of course you are the Queen of the import and requeen brigade!

Chons da

 

[For want of a better word]

Sorry to hear you have been left out of the official standard. You need to ask Hoppy as he claims his have been officially DNA tested, although the little imp refuses to divulge the results.
Cannot understand why [wry grin]

Ask Cornwall Council Trading standards.

Suggest you get your order in to Herr B asap... asap as there are thousands of new beekeepers going to loose their delicate hybrids over winter who will want early ( March) queens!

Attitudes need to change!

Chons da

 

[SDM]

Ask Cornwall Council Trading standards.

Suggest you get your order in to Herr B asap... asap as there are thousands of new beekeepers going to loose their delicate hybrids over winter who will want early ( March) queens!

Attitudes need to change!

Chons da

Funny you should mention the "delicate hybrids " as the author of an article in the same magazine was explaining how he recovered from his 80% losses of delicate native bees killed by the beast from the east.
I live a few miles from him, we didn't even get snow on the ground. I lost 5% to that storm and 100% of them were killed by a flying chicken coop roof.not by a day or two of frost.
Funnily enough he's visiting one of my apiaries on Friday to see what better bees can do that'll be the 8th local attitude I've changed this week. The other 7 ordered queens.

 

[B+.]

Attitudes need to change!

Indeed they do.
If we had less bickering and more focus on testing / selection, we might actually have a bee worth keeping

 

[Beefriendly]

beekeepers going to loose their delicate hybrids over winter who will want early ( March) queens!

Attitudes need to change!

That would be why you were asking (on another thread) how to make thermal cosies to cosset your local dedicates through the winter.

 

[Finman]

Funny you should mention the "delicate hybrids " as the author of an article in the same magazine was explaining how he recovered from his 80% losses of delicate native bees killed by the beast from the east.
.

One beast from east is varroa. 80% varroa losses are common.

 

[foghornleghorn]

One beast from east is varroa. 80% varroa losses are common.

The beast from the east was a week of cold weather last winter, a little bit of snow by your standards...

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Indeed they do.
If we had less bickering and more focus on testing / selection, we might actually have a bee worth keeping

Maybe not pouncing on each and every thread mentioning AMM with derision and bias would be a start
I don't really give a fig what type of bees people keep, but your constant obsessive attacks are getting a bit tiresome.

 

[B+.]

Maybe not pouncing on each and every thread mentioning AMM with derision and bias would be a start
I don't really give a fig what type of bees people keep, but your constant obsessive attacks are getting a bit tiresome.

If you actually read what I said, it was the bickering I objected to. Some of us are a bit tired of it

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

But it's invariably you in the thick of it, if you're going to chuck stones, don't be surprised if a few are returned

 

[B+.]

But it's invariably you in the thick of it, if you're going to chuck stones, don't be surprised if a few are returned

The thick of what? What are you talking about?

 

[beebopper]

But it's invariably you in the thick of it, if you're going to chuck stones, don't be surprised if a few are returned

But B+ is always respectful.
He has strongly held opinions, which he is entitled to, but he is not abusive like others.

 

[madasafish]

But B+ is always respectful.
He has strongly held opinions, which he is entitled to, but he is not abusive like others.

Someone somewhere referred to his opponents as "the Taliban" and then elsewhere complains about being mistreated..

Best joke of the week so far.

 

[B+.]

People can form their own opinions about what I have said. It is a pity that the forum has become like a school playground though. There was a serious point made at the start of this thread and, unfortunately, that is being overshadowed by side-arguments.

 

[user 6228]

I think you will find the WBKA is guilty of agreeing with an eminent scientist specialising in honey bees.

May I suggest one reads Prof Seeley's latest book(p286 ) or his article "Darwinian Bee keeping"

 

[For want of a better word]

That would be why you were asking (on another thread) how to make thermal cosies to cosset your local dedicates through the winter.

Total CARP from the usual Forum bully/clown/troll or whatever!

.... I was requesting opinions on how to insulate and use some WBC brood boxes that I had acquired, and if any one on the forum had made any for WBC boxes

WBC brood boxes are manufactured from Western Red Cedar and designed to be inside an outer insulating cover set known as "Lifts". The material used is very much thinner than used in the manufacture of National or Langstroffs/ etc etc.

The cost of the 50mm Kingspan made the idea a little expencive... so my stock of surrogate Italian bees that I use to help bring on early CORNISH NATIVE Amm... will be overwintering in BHS pollystyrene hives... that should keep the delicate little non natives warm and cosy!

Chons da

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

The thick of what? What are you talking about?

As someone else said to you not that long ago, a bit of self awareness would be desirable.

 

[B+.]

WBC brood boxes are manufactured from Western Red Cedar and designed to be inside an outer insulating cover set known as "Lifts". The material used is very much thinner than used in the manufacture of National or Langstroffs/ etc etc.

There is a lady in my local association who had ~25 WBCs. The "lifts" were big and heavy so I don't know how she managed to lift them - quite a bit thicker than a wooden Langstroth, I would say. In fact, the brood box itself had various layers ("quilts") which I would say was an early form of insulation. She often complained that the bees would gather between the brood box and the lifts - so, they certainly had their problems.