Warm way to cold way

[jenkinsbrynmair]

When i first got my bees I decided to put the frames in warm way.The problem i've found is that this doesn't give me as much maneuvering options (have to always do any manipulations from the back of the hive) I've since learnt that as I use an OMF it doesn't really matter warm or cold way - I'm assuming therefore it's no real problem just moving the brood through ninety degrees (entrance in the same position)
am I right or wrong - bet I also get a third option

 

[iball]

Turning the brood box through 90 degrees won't upset them. If you turn the floor and entrance they'll still find their way home.

Ian

 

[iball]

You could always turn the brood box through 270 degrees!!

 

[Swarm]

Are you working them alone? Generally easier for a single person to work from the back.

 

[huntsman666]

Only advantage of warm way is as you say, manipulations can be undertaken either side, not back. Other than that the bees don't mind either.

 

[kazmcc]

Ahh, that's an idea, as when we have certain members of the group they almost shove me out of the way to get to the back of the hive, which makes controlling clumsy behaviour difficult. Might turn them myself then

 

[Swarm]

If you have another person who would like to get hands on, cold way is ideal as you can work either side. Some work on the principle that incoming foragers can access numerous frames, whether there is any merit in this is anyone's guess.

 

[tonybloke]

Only advantage of warm way is as you say, manipulations can be undertaken either side, not back. Other than that the bees don't mind either.

please explain this post.

the frames in my hive run from front - back, known by most as 'cold way' I can therefore work the hives from either side, with the frames easily grasped in both hands.

 

[For want of a better word]

Matter of habit, I put a spot on the frame and a spot on the brood box and orientate that to due South. As the hive entrance faces due South the frames always go back in the way they came out!

Simples

KAZ wear steel capped boots to apiary meetings, then if a pushy person pushes you out of the way you can kick him in the shins!!!
OOPS so SORRY usually does it!!!

 

[kazmcc]

KAZ wear steel capped boots to apiary meetings, then if a pushy person pushes you out of the way you can kick him in the shins!!!
OOPS so SORRY usually does it!!!

Oooooo I dream of the day haha, sometimes, representing the school sucks big time. They asked me to care for the bees, I care for the bees. The problem is I think is that it is a school where most professional types send their children, whereas I'm a lowly single mother. Therefore, seen as inferior and I couldn't possibly know more about the bees than these people because single mothers are a bit dim right?. Hmph.

Wish I could just get my own, it can be quite stressful, especially when the last Madge was unmarked and people were banging about and on one incident, I shook of a frame of bees from the outer frames, knowing it was very unlikely she'd be on there and after having a good look, when it was a certain persons turn to inspect a frame, they took it upon themselves to just shake the bees, but in an outward direction so bees were all over the apiary floor. I had visions of Madge being down there. I've since put a stop to this kind of behaviour, and I'm a lot more clear with people what they can and cannot do, but sheesh, for a while there it was stressful

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

please explain this post.

the frames in my hive run from front - back, known by most as 'cold way' I can therefore work the hives from either side, with the frames easily grasped in both hands.

That's my observation: having mine warm way - frames at 90 degrees to the entrance - when I get to the furthest frames away from me I have to lean right over - I can't nip over to the other side to complete the inspection as I'd be standing in front of the entrance hence my desire to turn them cold way.I'd then have three sides I could stand at. I work my hives alone BTW

 

[For want of a better word]

KAZ
I was a single dad for years!
The cool way seems to be the way ahead
Never met a dim single mother.... met a few dim beekeepers though!!


why move through 270 when 90 would do?
obviously a LEFT Handed thread, 26tpi cycle no doubt....
Must go lie down in a dark corner now!

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

KAZ


why move through 270 when 90 would do?
!

Might have been irony? - Like doing my seamanship exams again I'll have to teach my bees to box the compass! - North, Nor nor East by North, Nor Nor East Nor Nor East By East etc etc!!

 

[Lance Hutchings]

Might have been irony? - Like doing my seamanship exams again I'll have to teach my bees to box the compass! - North, Nor nor East by North, Nor Nor East Nor Nor East By East etc etc!!

Hmmmm can't remember Captain Jack Sparrow mentioning all that Mularkey !!

 

[For want of a better word]

Hmmmm can't remember Captain Jack Sparrow mentioning all that Mularkey !!

He had GPS​

 

[jallen]

have differnt hives on worm and cold ways makes no differnce

 

[tonybloke]

That's my observation: having mine warm way - frames at 90 degrees to the entrance -

that explains the confusion with your previous post,
frames parallel to entrance is known as 'warm way',
frames at 90 deg to the entrance is known as 'cold way'

 

[kazmcc]

KAZ
I was a single dad for years!
The cool way seems to be the way ahead
Never met a dim single mother.... met a few dim beekeepers though!!

 

[chickendave]

Tried both ways on a number of hives in both summer and winter, seems to make no differance to the bees

 

[fincaazul]

Oooooo I dream of the day haha, sometimes, representing the school sucks big time. They asked me to care for the bees, I care for the bees. The problem is I think is that it is a school where most professional types send their children, whereas I'm a lowly single mother. Therefore, seen as inferior and I couldn't possibly know more about the bees than these people because single mothers are a bit dim right?. Hmph.

Wish I could just get my own, it can be quite stressful, especially when the last Madge was unmarked and people were banging about and on one incident, I shook of a frame of bees from the outer frames, knowing it was very unlikely she'd be on there and after having a good look, when it was a certain persons turn to inspect a frame, they took it upon themselves to just shake the bees, but in an outward direction so bees were all over the apiary floor. I had visions of Madge being down there. I've since put a stop to this kind of behaviour, and I'm a lot more clear with people what they can and cannot do, but sheesh, for a while there it was stressful

Having been a single Dad for many years and applauded for it, with comments like 'I think you are amazing' I know what the problems are! Single Mums have a much more difficult time. Be quietly assertive, if they don't listen to you the first, second or third time then carry on repeating the message and eventually they should stop and listen. As long as you remain calm you will be recognised as someone who maybe has a brain and some knowledge. I know it can be hard but persevere. You WILL get there. Incidentally,ask a man to put evenly spaced runners on a pleated curtain and listen to the language! Best wishes, Eddie