"Raw" honey

[charlievictorbravo]

I drink it and loads of others do every day without catching anything.
sorry

A friend of mine had a campsite full of scouts taken ill by using unpasteurised milk from the nearby farm - turned out one of the cows had a dead calf inside her. You carry on drinking it if you like, but I would not touch "raw" milk.

CVB

 

[Itchy]

A friend of mine had a campsite full of scouts taken ill by using unpasteurised milk from the nearby farm - turned out one of the cows had a dead calf inside her. You carry on drinking it if you like, but I would not touch "raw" milk.

CVB

I find the fact it was the milk that made the scouts ill hard to believe, sounds like a scare story to me. Local dairy here sells lots of it, and I drank it daily for 30 tears when we milked cows. Poncy health Hitlers have made the general population averse to anything but sanitised factory farmed crap - hence the obesity and general poor health of a vast majority.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I find the fact it was the milk that made the scouts ill hard to believe, sounds like a scare story to me. Local dairy here sells lots of it, and I drank it daily for 30 tears when we milked cows. Poncy health Hitlers have made the general population averse to anything but sanitised factory farmed crap - hence the obesity and general poor health of a vast majority.

 

[Erichalfbee]

They probably got ill from undercooked cheap sausages!!

 

[iand]

I was brought up on raw milk, drank it for about 25 years until the cows went. Nothing better than cold creamy CI milk straight from the tank on your breakfast cereals.
All the cows were as they are now TT tested ( for TB), I remember Grandads milk bottles from when he sold his milk direct, saying on them "Tuberculin Tested.

 

[Queens59]

My Dad had a friend who always gave me raw milk when we visited his smallholding to cuddle his pigs (me - not Dad) - and I can still remember the deep, rich flavour - Smashing...it got to the point Mum had to buy a few pints a week for me from him - as I refused point blank to drink the runny dairy stuff from the doorstep

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

A few times when we called in to my uncle's dairy farm (probably most days!!) my aunty Mefus would make a cup of tea (she knew to put the kettle on as soon as my father's footsteps were heard approacking the back door) and realise there was no milk in the house or dairy as she'd forgotten to take a jug before the tanker came - my father would squirt it direct from the cow into his tea (remembering to warm his hands first though .)

 

[Erichalfbee]

I remember you could get raw milk from our milkie who delivered it by horse and cart.

At vet school we had to get Heaf tested and there were a remarkable number of fellow students brought up on dairy farms who had protective antibodies. No BCG for them but they did have to get x-rayed. Nobody was actually positive.

 

[psafloyd]

The other adjective I would take exception to is "Unblended". Does this mean honey from one hive has not been blended with honey from another, or from one apiary with honey from another or from one producer with honey from another producer or ... well, you get the idea. It's one step better than "A blend of EU and non-EU honeys" I suppose, but only one step!

I'm not sure I'd use the word "unpasteurized" as the public might see this as being unhealthy - nobody in their right mind drinks unpasteurized milk and that might rub off on unpasteurized-labelled honey product.

CVB

I wouldn't use the word 'unpasteurized', as we don't spell it with a Z.

However, your comment about unpasteurised milk is, frankly, ridiculous. Maybe you're a hygiene freak, or can provide a copper-bottomed scientific answer to that. But like anything else in life, at worst, that is a calculated risk one must take and a long way short of excessive consumption of fast food, alcohol or cigarettes. And it certainly doesn't suggest anyone willing to consume it has a screw loose.

The only reason I don't drink unpasteurised milk is because I cannot get it.
I will gladly get cheese made from unpasteurised milk whenever I can.

 

[psafloyd]

A friend of mine had a campsite full of scouts taken ill by using unpasteurised milk from the nearby farm - turned out one of the cows had a dead calf inside her. You carry on drinking it if you like, but I would not touch "raw" milk.

CVB

What do you think hundreds of millions of people have done though the years?

And was your mother's milk pasteurised? No? Well, maybe that's tantamount to child abuse...

 

[psafloyd]

A friend of mine had a campsite full of scouts taken ill by using unpasteurised milk from the nearby farm - turned out one of the cows had a dead calf inside her. You carry on drinking it if you like, but I would not touch "raw" milk.

CVB

That sounds like equine manure. Probably a virus that swept through a couple of dozen kids living in close proximity. That or poorly refrigerated meat products handled by some unwholesome type.

 

[psafloyd]

I find the fact it was the milk that made the scouts ill hard to believe, sounds like a scare story to me. Local dairy here sells lots of it, and I drank it daily for 30 tears when we milked cows. Poncy health Hitlers have made the general population averse to anything but sanitised factory farmed crap - hence the obesity and general poor health of a vast majority.

 

[psafloyd]

A friend of mine had a campsite full of scouts taken ill by using unpasteurised milk from the nearby farm - turned out one of the cows had a dead calf inside her. You carry on drinking it if you like, but I would not touch "raw" milk.

CVB

Or an urban myth, albeit in the countryside.

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

I wouldn't use the word 'unpasteurized', as we don't spell it with a Z.

We'll make an exception for "Pasteurised" since Louis Pasteur was French. But, as per the OED "-ize" is the traditional English ending of such words, which has persisted in other English-speaking nations but was turned to "-ise" here by Victorians adopting French mannerisms as being more refined. "-ize" is still in the OED as being correct as well as "-ise".

 

[psafloyd]

We'll make an exception for "Pasteurised" since Louis Pasteur was French. But, as per the OED "-ize" is the traditional English ending of such words, which has persisted in other English-speaking nations but was turned to "-ise" here by Victorians adopting French mannerisms as being more refined. "-ize" is still in the OED as being correct as well as "-ise".

I know that z was the old form, but as you are undoubtedly aware, OED is concerned with usage.

We use s, so that is correct. Others use z, and that is also correct. But not here.

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

But not here.

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[TryingToLetThemBee]

I mean, I could see that the AMM forum might INSIST on "ize" but I don't see why the opposite is true. But I'm just playing so forget I spoke.

 

[psafloyd]

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In the UK, I meant. I know, it is true this is an international forum, though the vast majority are based in the UK.

If the OP has the z as their local usage, fair play, but it's still 'wrong' here in the UK. It wouldn't get past me for anything I'm editing, at any rate.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

That sounds like equine manure.

Or maybe bovine in this case? The sort of story spread by people who believe swedes and apples are only picked when ripe (that is, when the cling film outer membrane is fully formed over them.)

 

[Erichalfbee]

only picked when ripe (that is, when the cling film outer membrane is fully formed over them.)

I took my then 15 year old daughter and three friends to a villa in Lanzarote ( I must have been mad! never again...couldn't cope with being in charge of nubile adolescents and leering local boys) Sorry I digress....Walking through orchards the fig trees were drooping with luscious fruit and stopping to pick a few for them I was met with an aghast........"Yuk, what are you doing? Are they safe to eat off the trees?"