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You been on the happy juice?
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Maybe finmans pollen patty recipe should be made a sticky?
With all them dates it would be a bit wouldn't it?
With all them dates it would be a bit wouldn't it?
2-3 dl **** oil (bees did not accept olive oil)
An
I continue to nervously google research on soya and sugars toxic to bees and what is in dates, but I reckon they either will take it or they won't. Nearly ready to take the plunge.
Thx. It looks to me that the sugars that are bad for bees are present in tiny amounts in dates and soya.
What are those bad sugars? And from where you got that data?
American Bee Journal, February, 1977, Vol. 117 (2): 76, 77
by ROY J. BARKER
U. S. Dept. of Agriculture, Bee Research Laboratory
2000 E. Allen Road, Tucson, Arizona 85719
ABSTRACT
Sugars which poison honey bees, and impurities in commercial sugars which are harmful are discussed. There is no sugar better than pure sucrose........
..........Sugars which poison bees when fed at low levels in sucrose syrup include galactose, arabinose, xylose, melibiose, mannose, raffinose, stachyose, and lactose (Barker and Lehner, 1974b; Barker 1976a).
and **ck nose..........Sugars which poison bees when fed at low levels in sucrose syrup include galactose, arabinose, xylose, melibiose, mannose, raffinose, stachyose, lactose
http://www.extension.org/pages/28844/honey-bee-nutritionAdult bees can utilize glucose, fructose, sucrose, trehalose, maltose, and melezitose, but bees are unable to digest rhaminose, xylose, arabinose, galactose, mannose, lactose, raffinose, melibiose or stachyose. Most of these sugars are also toxic to honey bees. About 40% of sugars found in soybeans are toxic to bees, and therefore care should be taken when using soybeans as a pollen substitute.
I noted this in the recently linked nutrition paper http://www.extension.org/pages/28844/honey-bee-nutrition
http://informedfarmers.com/honey-bee-supplementary/Soya flour has been used and recommended by many sources, but not all soya flours are equal. The flour must be expeller processed to remove its high oil content (15%). Solvent-extracted flour will have residues toxic to the bees. Using high-fat soya flour is not a problem if the final mixture of ingredients has a fat level of around 7% or lower. Protein levels for soya flour have been recorded at 50%. It is deficient in one amino acid, tryptophan. Soya flour on its own is not very attractive to bees and the processing of the flour is not always up to the standard required to safely use for feeding colonies of bees, but it is one of the cheaper supplements. It is most important to store soya flour in a cold room to prevent the oil component from going rancid.
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