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In the end - bees will aim for about 20% drone cells when they're in full swing - whether you give them worker foundation, smooth or leave them draw their own they will achieve that and take down the drone cells when they no longer require it.
 
In the end - bees will aim for about 20% drone cells when they're in full swing - whether you give them worker foundation, smooth or leave them draw their own they will achieve that and take down the drone cells when they no longer require it.

Yep ... exactly what happened in my hive ... bees will usually do what they want to do ! :hairpull:
 

What is interesting is that the above-mentioned study didn't include wax foundation at all. It compares strips (i.e. no foundation) against three types of plastic foundation against white existing comb (i.e. "new" comb) against dark existing comb (i.e. "old" comb).

The advice of that study seems to be: don't start a package bee colony on foundation alone, but give them drawn-out comb. You can add frames with strips or foundation later, when the colony has established itself.
 
What is interesting is that the above-mentioned study didn't include wax foundation at all. .


Foundation means wax foundations: "One couple I know started with 25 packages on (wax) foundation, and half of the colonies died in the first week! ".

Plastic foundations are named Black permanent, White permanet, Pierco.

These guys are professionals and they surely know what they do. 80% of canadian beekeepers are professionals.

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Highlights http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/23-221-x/2011000/part-partie1-eng.htm

Honey

In 2011, Canadian beekeepers produced 78.1 million pounds of honey, a decline of nearly 4.0 million pounds or 4.8%, from 2010.

On average, each colony had a yield of 124 pounds, down from 132 pounds per colony in 2010.

In Alberta, which accounts for over 40% of Canada's honey production, yields fell by 13 pounds per colony to 117 pounds. The decline was the result of several factors, including a long winter and rainy spring and increased splitting of colonies as farmers increased their hives.

The two other Prairie provinces account for an additional 40% of national production. In Manitoba, a hot, dry season provided good conditions for bee activity, resulting in above-average production. Yields averaged 200 pounds per colony, up from 165 pounds from 2010.
In Saskatchewan, yields and production were lower in 2011 with average yields at 177 pound per colony, down from 214 pounds in 2010.

Canada had 7,671 beekeepers in 2011, 268 more than in 2010. They managed about 627,700 beehives, an increase of 7,400 from 2010.

In 2010, the total value of honey produced amounted to $146 million, up 15.5% from 2009.
 
What is interesting is that the above-mentioned study didn't include wax foundation at all. It compares strips (i.e. no foundation) against three types of plastic foundation against white existing comb (i.e. "new" comb) against dark existing comb (i.e. "old" comb).

Foundation means wax foundation...

Following your post, I had yet another careful look at that site, but I still have the distinct impression that when they use the word "foundation" they mean plastic foundation and not wax foundation.

One couple I know started with 25 packages on [wax] foundation, and half of the colonies died in the first week!

That is your interpretation of that sentence, but my interpretation is that that sentence refers to plastic foundation.
 
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Oh dear
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The whole question is about natural combs versus Foundation frames. How in earth professional beekeeper use plastic foundations instead of wax Foundation.

Allen Dick, who had had this document in his pages, he really wrote about the advantages of foundations.

Read here
http://www.honeybeeworld.com/4dot9/default.htm
 
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If you read the page, first research has been made "Honey Production in N. Alberta
Packages (3 Years of Data) Szabo 1983".


That plastic Foundation experiment was done in the spring of year 2000, right here on our (Allen Dick's) farm at Swalwell, Alberta:


40 package hives (in five groups) were started on either
 
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