paint\stain\varnish whatever

[mikeyspikey]

Hi Peteinwilts,

I think you can paint the outside with almost anything so if you want a white hive to keep them cool then go for paint BUT after painting leave it at least four weeks for it to go off before you put any bees in it.

 

[Finman]

Hi Peteinwilts,

I think you can paint the outside with almost anything so if you want a white hive to keep them cool then go for paint BUT after painting leave it at least four weeks for it to go off before you put any bees in it.

More madness! Water solvent latex dryes up in one hour and no odor.

 

[BKF Admin]

If creosote was still available in the uk it would be my first choice.

All the old beekeepers swear by it.

 

[Finman]

If creosote was still available in the uk it would be my first choice.

All the old beekeepers swear by it.

How many of them have painted his own home with creosote?

Our old beekeepers used wood tar. Some stupidoes used tar even in polyhives. "Silent knowledge" as we say!

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But I would say that burning pine cones in the smoker is not worse than that creosote. - Is it natural?
"Chemical free" beekeeping has its limitations.

.

 

[BKF Admin]

I tried a few pine leaves in the smoker yesterday,it did smell nice and was good until it spat a piece into my eye..

 

[Brosville]

I would say that I'm being totally scientific, and frugal to boot!
I'm trying to keep bees as free from synthetic chemicals as possible - I tend to react badly to many of them myself, so it seems entirely sensible to seek out and use naturally derived substances that have been around for millenia (and about which we are aware of any untoward effects or reactions).
The wood preservative industry has a long record of touting incredibly dangerous substances as "safe" which are subsequently proven to be utterly lethal - it is therefore unscientific (on the precautionary principle) to use relatively untested "synthetics" when there are superior natural alternatives, both for the bees' and my own safety
If that be "mad" then you may consider me barking, totally, utterly mad as a box of frogs! (I also embrace the title "crank" - small, efficient, and causes revolutions!)

 

[BKF Admin]

I dont think your mad Brosville,after years of giving drugs to thousands of patients I was starting to find at home we were going more and more down the homopathic route.

We became tea tree oil mad as a cure all for everything from teenage spots to headlice.

Looking at the sales of Manuka(Tea tree) honey many are starting to agree.

It is the way forward in the Apiary and at home.

 

[Finman]

I dont think your mad Brosville,after years of giving drugs to thousands of patients I was starting to find .

Are you medicine doctor? So you have a licence to determine, if Brosville is mad? But it seems that you are not totally sure?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYRajKfZYb0&feature=related

I know that a person is normal if he is not dangerous to himself or to neighbours, but I have no authority to decide it.

.

 

[Finman]

I tried a few pine leaves in the smoker yesterday,it did smell nice and was good until it spat a piece into my eye..

That smoke has much steamed tar and when it touch something cool, it makes a tar layer.

Finland exported much tar for ceiling boats . Here is picture shain how we did it:

In the precence of heat an low oxycen the tar was distillef from wood.

 

[BKF Admin]

Are you medicine doctor? So you have a licence to determine, if Brosville is mad? But it seems that you are not totally sure?

I am not trained as a psychiatrist so in my opinion I cannot confirm if Brosville is mad or not.

Although running this forum I am starting to question my own sanity

 

[hedgerow pete]

dont worry about the voices they talk to me aswell and i am the sane one!!

 

[hedgerow pete]

last word from the voices is that any eco paint or preserver should have the word BORON in it , just bean over to the cat web site and boron is good

 

[planbee]

I have it on good authority that insanity is hereditary - we get it from our children !

John

 

[hedgerow pete]

dissentry is also hereditary, that runs in your jeans to,boom boom
old but still unfunny?

 

[Finman]

I have it on good authority that insanity is hereditary - we get it from our children !

John

At least they make me mad, sometimes with chemical and sometimes without.

have you seen natural children keeping?

 

[jon]

have you seen natural children keeping?

What! In a top bar hive?

 

[BKF Admin]

HAHA ! Very good guy's

 

[Trev]

Most wood treatments have some petro-chemical or solvent content and emit VOC greenhouse gases. Most also have some very nasty chemicals.

Check out this link to an american site where they have used a 100% water based, 100% Non-Toxic wood treatment called Lifetime.

I was introduced to Lifetime Wood Treatment some years ago in Canada, where it is approved and used by Government Departments such as the National Parks and the Dept of Natural Resources. I was shown a salt water dock 10 years old, that had no deterioration at all.

I have used it on a hen house and I know people that have used it on stables.
It is 100% safe and is made from minerals and plant extracts. It can even be used below ground and around fish and water. It does all this with only one coat !

I believe it is now available in the U.K.

Good luck.

 

[MJBee]

Trev,
That stuff looks like the answer to hive treatment. Where did you get it?.
I have emailed them to see if they have an agent/supplier in France.
Mike

 

[beebreeder]

I used to use Cuprinol Garden Shades but after a couple of years it flakes off and the box has to be taken out of use to rub down, re treat etc, I have now moved to Sadolin Superdec, many colours available, water based and wears naturally just re coat when needed, as to colour I use something that blends in to the greenery around hopefully less obvious to the thiives around now. Only problem is its very expensive and available from paint specialists