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The Poot

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It is often said that to make a nuc from two colonies they will fight, but won’t from three?
Uniting two colonies they don’t fight but the uniting is extended over a short period, by using paper.
But, spraying with air freshener prevents fighting without delaying the process.
If a nuc was created thus - two lots of bees, with air freshener and an introduced queen, would they fight and would they be likely to accept the queen?
 
I wouldn’t want to risk an established queen by uniting bees with just air freshener. If it was a new queen I still wouldn’t do it, even if I was pushed for time. I always use newspaper, what’s another day in the bigger picture.
 
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I wouldn’t want to risk an established queen by uniting bees with just air freshener. If it was a new queen I still wouldn’t do it, even if I was pushed for time. I always use newspaper, what’s another day in the bigger picture.
I have only once united bees with just air freshener and it went fine. Other folk on here do so regularly it seems. It’s horses for courses I suppose.
However, I wasn’t asking about uniting bees, but making a new colony from two others, mainly concerning the fighting risk.
 
I regularly use air freshener: even adding a frame of brood plus bees (not including a Q!) to a weak colony.. Makes strengthening far more effective.
Works so far 100% ..since 2018

Cheap air freshener is less than a broadsheet newspaper.
 
I've used air freshener to add a nuc into a small colony, to drop a swarm into a queenless colony, and to unite colonies with no problems.
I've often wondered if you could use it to introduce a queen: put her in a cage or clip on the top bars, spray the lot then release her immediately.
 
I've used air freshener to add a nuc into a small colony, to drop a swarm into a queenless colony, and to unite colonies with no problems.
I've often wondered if you could use it to introduce a queen: put her in a cage or clip on the top bars, spray the lot then release her immediately.
That was my train of thought. If the spray rids the box of queen pheromones, I would think the introduced queen could be more easily accepted. I don’t know if I want to spend £40 to try it out, but it seems a feasible idea (not a magic trick).
 
A couple of weeks ago I left the queen in the cage for 24 hours in the hive and then a quick spray and released her. No problem. Not quite the same but I was a bit uncomfortable doing it immediately.
 
I am not rich enough to gamble on queen rearing by introducing Qs with air freshener.
<Cough> Or should I say too mean?
 
It is often said that to make a nuc from two colonies they will fight, but won’t from three?
Uniting two colonies they don’t fight but the uniting is extended over a short period, by using paper.
But, spraying with air freshener prevents fighting without delaying the process.
If a nuc was created thus - two lots of bees, with air freshener and an introduced queen, would they fight and would they be likely to accept the queen?
I watched Bob Binnie unite two colonies simply by pouring a load of syrup over the top bars.
"By the time they finish cleaning that lot up they'll all be sisters."
 

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