From what I know of Jbm and what I can discern from your posts he's a vastly more experienced beekeeper and has a better understanding of bee and mite biology than you, so a little self awareness and humility wouldn't go amiss imho.
Deep beekeeping experience doesn't necessarily give you _any_ knowledge of the rapid evolutionary changes bought about by natural selection, nor of the parallel between that and breeding. Without that basic you can't see the point of 3/4 of what I'm trying to show you.
I think the problem with the "blueprint" you seem to be advocating is that many have been there and experienced the car crash themselves and so don't like seeing this sort of advice pumped out ready to be read by unwary beginners without challenge.
I'm not offering a blueprint. I'm explaining what works and why - for the benefit of those interested in learning about genetic husbandry and treatment free beekeeping - including those who will learn that they don't have any chance of success. Be wary, fine. But read what I've said: it doesn't work everywhere and here is why: medicating beekeepers perpetuating the problem.
Read Randy say _exactly_ the same thing in my post yesterday.
This is fundamental stuff. If you can't see there is something getting in the way - maybe lack of appropriate education, maybe fear of trying - but don't try to block the conversation between others with stupid and insulting non-posts.
Jbm is in his own humorous way offering this challenge, if you don't like it there's an ignore function.
If that's your idea of humour I'm very glad I don't know you personally.
If jbm wants to offer a _substantive_ challenge I'll meet him.
I wouldn't wish it on anyone, and certainly not on your poor bees, but my money is on it all going horribly wrong for you ...
People have been telling me - and others - that for 10 years and more. For a great many it has gone wrong _and I'm trying to show you why it goes wrong_
If I thought it could be made to work I'd take you up on your offer, and put £500 on the table.
...sits 8n the archives of the forum ready to lead astray future beekeepers.
What are so afraid of that you want to censor me? Do you own shares in bayer or something?
This bs makes me cross. You clearly know nothing of treatment free beekeeping, yet here you are trying in a high-handed way to close down those who do have such experience.
No one should watch colonies with high mite counts slowly die even if they believe 8ts for a greater cause in the long run, its cruel
And right there is a telling detail.
The old boy who taught me beekeeping 35 years ago was a true countryman. He'd worked in the countryside, bred animals, and kept bees all his life, and had great respect for wild animals. He told me the twin countryside rule-set when dealing with wild animals.
1) Never help a wild animal. The reason is that the weak must die so that the population, now and in the future, remains strong.
2) Everything deserves its chance. Never, unless truly necessary to prevent suffering, kill a wounded wild animal. It might just go on and make it, and the future population may be better for its strength.
These old boys understood nature. The understood, in their bones and in the lives, the necessity of letting natural selection play out.
People who keep bees as you would pets are a curse on the Honeybee. Her wellbeing, now and in the future, depends on the strength of her genetic coding. That coding is made strong by constant winnowing of the weak. That is how nature works, and listen up: its how husbandry is done.
If your bees are over-run with mites do what you will. They are your pets. But know that every time you keep weak individuals alive and send their genes into the future you weaken the population.
There endeth your lesson on genetic husbandry. Please get to know the basics that countrymen have known for thousands of years before giving me your pious talk of cruelty again.
