Don't know if any one has a passing interest in heliophysics but there are credible predictions that we are heading for a period of longer colder winters. I know summer is still to be had and winter seems a long way off but with all the challenges facing us it might be prudent to have an eye on the longer term horizon especially because Brazil's sugar industry has been badly hit by Covid19!
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Yea..... Buy poly hives ditch the wood.... Next 20 years going to be chilly
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Thanks for that little ray of sunshine.
as for Brazil sugar prices, anybody with an ounce of common sense will continue to use British or European beet sugar so it shouldn't have too much of an impact.
as for Brazil sugar prices, anybody with an ounce of common sense will continue to use British or European beet sugar so it shouldn't have too much of an impact.
Predictions, predictions ..... 
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Predictions, predictions .....
I still have a FT from about 1983 quoting solar minimums and forecasting an imminent Ice Age...
Anyone who quotes solar cycles as the basis for their forecasts is worth ignoring totally. There is no definitive agrememnt on the issue...as to length of cycles...
To get a definitive cycle you need to know what the Sun's output is going to be next year.. and the year after .. etc. So far, no solar physicist is brave enough.
Weather forecasters, however, - like Jeremy Corbyn's brother- know it all.......
Rather like dowsers..
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The Daily Mail predicted an extremely severe Winter for last Winter.....and the one before. If they keep doing so they will eventually be right
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The Daily Mail predicted an extremely severe Winter for last Winter.....and the one before. If they keep doing so they will eventually be right
The Daily Mail at least would be useful in a bad winter... for fuel.
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I wouldn't use it for toilet paper though - Swmbo's mother once used it to wipe her arse with and caught a really nasty dose of racism.
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Check solar sunspot activity. You'll find it's completely abated with the longest stretch of zero sunspot activity in recent history.
Try Prof Valentina Zharkova from Northumbria University who's 2016 predictions were laughed at until confirmed by NASA lasy year.
Weather forecasters, however, - like Jeremy Corbyn's brother- know it all.......
Rather like dowsers..
Who said anything about predicting the weather. Solar forcing of climate is something entirely different.
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The Daily Mail predicted an extremely severe Winter for last Winter.....and the one before. If they keep doing so they will eventually be right
Don't read any newspapers least of all the Daily Wail so can't comment. However, last winter was extreme. Greenland experienced the coldest ever recorded temperature in January and the polar vortex brought some of the harshest weather in North America/Canada for 40 years. Doesn't play into the global warming narrative so not reported.
Ah, so the cold Winters are due for Greenland, Canada and North America.
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Has she recovered yet?
Unfortunately no - I also haven't steeled myself to tell the father in law (ex miner) that she voted tory in the last GE
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I must have missed that last winter - maybe I slept in that day?
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What was the temperature? It didn't make the wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowest_temperature_recorded_on_Earth
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-64.9°C according to NOAA. Feel free to Google it.
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Is that it? Seriously, is that all you've got?
One very cold temperature record taken in Greenland in the depths of winter and you think that proves anything?
As opposed to many thousands of daily recorded temperatures across the globe both on land and the oceans (Argo temperature sensors) that in aggregate show overall global warming?
So difficult to decide!
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