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to cope with the ebbs and manic flows of British nectar you would need a spinner as well. Otherwise what might you expect if you had a flow frames full with nectar still piling in?

:iagree: at the moment some of my hives have three (or more) supers on - none of which contain ripe honey
 
No skills required and IQ not tested for anyone deciding to keep bees.
I seem to remember ...when looking through a super of honey...that the central frames were filled and capped first...has this changed? Do the bees do it differently in a Flow frame then Icanhopit?

NOT TRUE... another beekeepers myth!
I looked through ten colonies of my native Cornish black bees this afternoon and all had filled the supers that are on the side adjacent to the Ley line the hives are orientated on.. other side not even filled with nectar. 3 supers on each colony!


Yeghes da
 
NOT TRUE... another beekeepers myth!
I looked through ten colonies of my native Cornish black bees this afternoon and all had filled the supers that are on the side adjacent to the Ley line the hives are orientated on.. other side not even filled with nectar. 3 supers on each colony!


Yeghes da
I have 3 supers like that on one hive, don't know if it's on a ley line or a chem trail:ohthedrama:
 
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I have 3 supers like that on one hive, don't know if it's on a ley line or a chem trail:ohthedrama:

Get those dowsing rods out!

Amazes me how many real beekeepers have the gift... putting hives in the right location.. without even being aware of the bees focus on the naturally occurring anomalies in the Earths field!!!

No drama.. except for the Doubting Thomas's who of course are not ever going to be REAL beekeepers!!!


Yeghes da
 
It's a shame all of you with proven paranormal talents missed out on the James Randi Million dollar prize for anyone who could prove they had psychic abilities. Appears they have now given up on finding anyone and are now only offering grants to people encouraging critical thinking....perhaps not surprising since they had no successful applicants able to demonstrate ley lines./dowsing/ESP etc for the last 40 or 50 years...although many tried.
 
I don't think anyone has been able to explain properly what makes a ley line, never mind demonstrate one...
 
Cribbing shamelessly for Wiki "The phrase was coined in 1921 by the amateur archaeologist Alfred Watkins, referring to supposed alignments of numerous places of geographical and historical interest, such as ancient monuments and megaliths, natural ridge-tops and water-fords. In his books Early British Trackways and The Old Straight Track, he sought to identify ancient trackways in the British landscape. Watkins later developed theories that these alignments were created for ease of overland trekking by line-of-sight navigation during neolithic times, and had persisted in the landscape over millennia."
 
Cribbing shamelessly for Wiki "The phrase was coined in 1921 by the amateur archaeologist Alfred Watkins, referring to supposed alignments of numerous places of geographical and historical interest, such as ancient monuments and megaliths, natural ridge-tops and water-fords. In his books Early British Trackways and The Old Straight Track, he sought to identify ancient trackways in the British landscape. Watkins later developed theories that these alignments were created for ease of overland trekking by line-of-sight navigation during neolithic times, and had persisted in the landscape over millennia."

Well ... Nobody is ASKING you to believe in them - it costs nothing to test for yourself - get a set of dowsing rods (a couple of wire coat hangers will do) and try it out. I've proved to myself (and I was the biggest sceptic of all) that it works for me and my bees ...

There's not much I agree with Roger Patterson about in beekeeping terms and he is about as traditional as they come ... but read his piece on dowsing here ..

http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/leylines.html

I find it pretty extraordinary that so many people (who clearly have never tried dowsing for anything - let alone leylines) are so vehement about the fact that there is no force beneath our feet that affects the way things work in nature above ... if you object to the term Leylines - call it something else !

There's a lot of things that cannot be explained in nature - why is the Golden Ratio so prevalent in nature ?

As recently as 2010 Golden Ratio Discovered in the Quantum World:

"The golden ratio, which is equal to approximately 1.618, can be found in various aspects of our life, including biology, architecture, and the arts. But only recently was it discovered that this special ratio is also reflected in nanoscale, thanks to researchers from the U.K.'s Oxford University. Their research, published in the journal Science on Jan. 8, examined chains of linked magnetic cobalt niobate (CoNb2O6) particles only one particle wide to investigate the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. They applied a magnetic field at right angles to an aligned spin of the magnetic chains to introduce more quantum uncertainty. Following the changes in field direction, these small magnets started to magnetically resonate."

Epoch Times - January 20, 2010

What is it about the Fibonacci Sequence that it occurs so often in nature ?

Even Bees have a foot in the Fibonacci camp -

"Fibonacci numbers also appear in the pedigrees of idealized honeybees, according to the following rules:

If an egg is laid by an unmated female, it hatches a male or drone bee.
If, however, an egg was fertilized by a male, it hatches a female.

Thus, a male bee always has one parent, and a female bee has two.

If one traces the pedigree of any male bee (1 bee), he has 1 parent (1 bee), 2 grandparents, 3 great-grandparents, 5 great-great-grandparents, and so on. This sequence of numbers of parents is the Fibonacci sequence. The number of ancestors at each level, Fn, is the number of female ancestors, which is Fn−1, plus the number of male ancestors, which is Fn−2.[65] This is under the unrealistic assumption that the ancestors at each level are otherwise unrelated."


We do know that designs that conform to the Golden Ratio are sub-consciously preferred by people - but why ?

There are some things that, as yet, cannot be explained - it does not mean that there is nothing in our observations - just that, as yet, we don't have a logical explanation.

Our ancestors knew that planting crops by the phases of the moon could mean the difference between a good crop and a mediocre crop - presumably, as they did not understand the science they relied upon observation and trial and error. They saw and they believed - it is only in modern times that we understand the effect the moon has on our planet and we can ascribe scientific explanations to something that was being done almost since agriculture as we know it was in evidence.

Believe what you want, belittle what you cannot logically explain - the only person missing out is you.
 
The more you know the less you understand. Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu

The Holistic approach to Science......
I bet there are not many golden triangles or anything else much in Flow's hives !!

Yeghes da
 
If there were any ley lines round here, I assume any swarms would settle on trees/shrubs on one ley line or at an intersection.
They don't: they choose tall trees/short trees or shrubs. Edit : in a random pattern

So no pattern.

Maybe that's why when I try to dowse, I cannot find anything.


It's rather like taking harmless pills and thinking the medicine they contain makes you better...the placebo effect..:icon_204-2:
 
Icanhopit...why don't you align your hives so that the bees fill the centre frames first...that's what my bees do. Winter stores in the north and northwest sides in the brood box.....but supers filled from the centre outwards.
 
Logically explain....try ideomotor effect along with charlatans.

Sorry, not taking the bait, I don't feel the need to justify anything... I'm happy without any logical explanations ...I dowse BEFORE I site my hives so no preconceived or subconscious ideas there ... bees do better where I get a hit from the rods ... just from my observations.
 
Icanhopit...why don't you align your hives so that the bees fill the centre frames first...that's what my bees do. Winter stores in the north and northwest sides in the brood box.....but supers filled from the centre outwards.

Irrelevant as my bees are in polly hives.

Nos da
 
Sorry, not taking the bait, I don't feel the need to justify anything... I'm happy without any logical explanations ...I dowse BEFORE I site my hives so no preconceived or subconscious ideas there ... bees do better where I get a hit from the rods ... just from my observations.

I concur... that is what REAL beekeepers do it seems!!

Nos da
 
Irrelevant as my bees are in polly hives.

Nos da

So are mine....but they still store towards the northern side in the brood box. Perhaps they sense magnetic north....or or align their stores according to the Suns movement across the sky.....but the nectar is stored in the super centrally to begin with.
 
So are mine....but they still store towards the northern side in the brood box. Perhaps they sense magnetic north....or or align their stores according to the Suns movement across the sky.....but the nectar is stored in the super centrally to begin with.

:icon_204-2: you actually get to see the sun!
Thought it rained in Wales most of the time... well it seems to whwnever I visit!!
:sorry:
Yeghes da
 

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