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So who has them,in a pure form,any names and addresses.
 
I did but haven't now.

As for who has now I really don't k now myself.

PH
 
I doubt that this data exists, but it would be an interesting study to compile- bee types against yields/disease etc etc. it would be difficult to get anything meaningful, due to the large number of hybrids prevalent, but it must be possible to diagnose to what degree a bee has elements of AMM (for example) within it. for example, you can still see the labrador in a labrador cross...

I spent a few minutes searching and came up with the notes below in case anyone is interested.

Maybe we should ask the NBU to indicate strain of bee into their researches.

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Notes from the Bee Health Advisory Panel Meeting – CSL National Bee Unit 04/04/2005

iv. EFB – Non Molecular diagnostics

Work under a Defra funded project will be carried out this year to refine the ELISA (Enzyme
Linked Immunosorbent Assay) for the detection of EFB. The aim is to refine the sensitivity
of the test and to reduce the preparation and run time to allow much faster diagnosis. This
can then be used for a full survey of the UK to assess the geographical distribution of the
disease.

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Dorset BeeKeepers Association - in Dorset EFB is common, so common in fact that BDI makes a loss in Dorset.


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WEST NORFOLK AND KING’S LYNN BEEKEEPERS ASSOCIATION
Disease figures for the Eastern region - Keith advised as follows: -
The following inspections have been carried out for the season lst April to 1st October 2007.
2006 2007
Apiaries inspected 736 815
Colonies inspected 4453 4911
Beekeepers visited 342 427
Known Beekeepers in region 2005 2168 ( highest since records began 1994)
European Foulbrood 105 158
American Foulbrood 31 11

Norfolk has by far the highest incidences of both diseases with EFB 104 colonies in 36 apiaries and AFB 8 colonies in 2 apiaries.

1 Beekeeper had EFB and AFB in same apiary. These bees were on borage on the Suffolk Norfolk border.

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National Bee Unit survey to assess health status of apiaries in England and Wales
2009 and 2010

Information note
Background

There is a need to establish a clearer picture of the true prevalence and distribution of the range of pests and diseases that affect honey bee colonies in England and Wales.

As far as we know a survey of this magnitude has not been attempted anywhere else in the world, so data handling and timely presentation of results will be a challenge. However, Fera hope to publish the full dataset on completion of the analysis in Summer 2011. Individual laboratory diagnostic reports will not be sent to beekeepers whose apiaries have been sampled but their results will be available on their own apiary records online in BeeBase. The regional data will be made available as the survey progresses, along the following lines.

Prevalence of infection in apiaries sampled
AFB
EFB
Virus 1
Virus 2
Nosema spp.
etc

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So who exactly does produce them locally,and sells the queens.

Dromore BKA has a breeding programme for AMM and they have nucs and I think queens for sale. I attended a talk in April at my BKA given by one of their members.
I don't know the origin of the original queens, probably the Galtee group in S. Ireland.
It may not be local to SW England but it's nearer than Greece.

You could google for the web site and chase it up. I don't have any more details.
 
Thank you Jon, certainly a lot closer than Greece.
 
Here's a bit more info from the NBU. This is for England, I haven't looked at Scotland yet.

10 km squares with European Foulbrood - 2009

EFB occurence by 10KM squares 2009 Year
County 10 km squares where EFB has been found Area name Number of positive EFB diagnoses
(including recurrents)
Berkshire SU66 BURGHFIELD COMMON 1
Buckinghamshire SU79 STOKENCHURCH 5
Buckinghamshire SU98 NORTH SLOUGH 1
Cheshire SJ56 TARPOLEY 1
Cheshire SJ68 LYMM 7
Cheshire SJ69 RISLEY 3
Cheshire SJ78 ALTRINCHAM 4
Cornwall SX05 ST. AUSTEL 3
Cornwall SX26 LISKEARD 4
Derbyshire SK33 DERBY 1
Derbyshire SK35 WHATSTANDWELL 1
Derbyshire SK37 CHESTERFIELD 2
Devon SS70 MORCHARD BISHOP 3
Devon SS81 WITHERIDGE & TEMPLET 1
Devon SS90 SILVERTON 2
Devon SX67 TWO BRIDGES & HEXWOR 2
Devon SX78 MORETONHAMPSTEAD 10
Devon SX79 CHERITON BISHOP 5
Devon SX87 NEWTON ABBOT 3
Devon SX98 EXMINSTER & TOPSHAM 1
Devon SX99 EXETER 4
Devon SY09 WHIMPLE & WEST. HILL 2
Dorset SU11 FORDINGBRIDGE 3
Dorset SY78 WEST KNIGHTON 3
Dorset SY88 WOOL 4
Dorset SY89 BERE REGIS 4
Dorset SY98 WAREHAM 4
Dorset SY99 LYTCHETT MATRAVERS 5
Dorset SZ08 BROWNSEA ISLAND 4
Dorset SZ09 WEST BOURNEMOUTH 5
Dyfed SN23 TEGRYN 1
Dyfed SO34 EARDISLEY 1
East Sussex TQ41 N.E. LEWES 3
East Sussex TQ42 UCKFIELD 1
East Sussex TQ62 BURWASH 4
Essex TL60 RADLEY GREEN 4
Essex TL61 PLESHEY 1
Essex TL73 GAINSFORD END 5
Essex TL80 MALDON 1
Essex TM03 DEDHAM 1
Gloucestershire SP13 CHIPPING CAMPDEN 1
Greater London TQ06 WEYBRIDGE 6
Greater London TQ17 RICHMOND & HOUNSLOW 1
Greater London TQ18 HARROW & EALING 1
Greater London TQ27 S.W. LONDON 1
Greater London TQ28 N.W. LONDON 7
Greater London TQ29 BARNET & FINCHLEY 4
Greater London TQ37 S.E. LONDON 1
Greater London TQ39 ENFIELD 2
Hampshire SU33 STOCKBRIDGE 1
Hampshire SU34 ANDOVER 1
Hampshire SU46 NEWBURY 2
Hampshire SU56 THATCHAM 1
Hampshire SU72 PETERSFIELD 2
Hampshire SU74 FROYLE 1
Hampshire SU75 HOOK 1
Hereford & Worcestershire SO62 E ROSS 1
Hereford & Worcestershire SO96 HANBURY 1
Hereford & Worcestershire SP06 REDDITCH 1
Hertfordshire TL21 WELWYN 1
Hertfordshire TQ09 WATFORD 2
Hertfordshire TQ69 BILLERICAY 1
Kent TQ63 WADHURST 1
Kent TQ65 W. MALLING & HADLOW 2
Kent TQ73 CRANBROOK 5
Kent TQ74 STAPLEHURST & MARDEN 6
Kent TQ75 MAIDSTONE 2
Kent TQ83 TENTERDEN 4
Kent TQ84 HEADCORN 3
Kent TQ96 E. SITTINGBOURNE 7
Kent TQ97 SHEERNESS 1
Kent TR24 W. DOVER 4
Lincolnshire SE82 ALKBOROUGH. 1
Lincolnshire SK91 GREETHAM 1
Lincolnshire TF10 NORTH PETERBOROUGH 1
Lincolnshire TF11 MARKET DEEPING 4
Lincolnshire TF18 MARKET RASEN 1
Lincolnshire TF33 MOULTON SEAS END 2
Mid Glamorgan SS98 PENCOED 1
Norfolk TF94 WELLS BY SEA 5
Norfolk TG00 COSTON 8
Norfolk TG20 NORWICH SOUTH 4
Norfolk TG21 NORWICH NORTH 1
Norfolk TG31 RANWORTH 1
Norfolk TM09 ATTLEBOROUGH 2
Norfolk TM18 GISSING 2
Norfolk TM19 HAPTON 2
Norfolk TM29 HEMPNALL 10
Norfolk TM39 KIRBY CANE 4
North Yorkshire SE37 RIPON 1
North Yorkshire SE45 WHIXLEY 3
North Yorkshire SE49 THIMBLEBY 1
North Yorkshire SE54 COPMANTHORPE 6
North Yorkshire SE55 YORK W 1
North Yorkshire SE65 YORK E 2
Northamptonshire SP53 BRACKLEY 2
Oxfordshire SP22 KINGHAM 2
Oxfordshire SP30 BAMPTON 3
Oxfordshire SP32 ENSTONE 3
Oxfordshire SP40 CUMNOR 1
Oxfordshire SP42 MIDDLE BARTON 1
Oxfordshire SP51 ISLIP 7
Oxfordshire SU58 BLEWBURY 1
Rutland SK90 EDITH WESTON 2
Somerset SS84 PORLOCK 2
Somerset ST13 FLAXPOOL 5
Somerset ST74 UN-NAMED 1
Staffordshire SK12 HOAR CROSS 1
Staffordshire SK22 BURTON 3
Suffolk TM03 DEDHAM 2
Suffolk TM13 STUTTON 6
Suffolk TM14 IPSWICH 2
Suffolk TM23 HARWICH 2
Suffolk TM46 LEISTON 1
Suffolk TM47 BLYTHBURGH 4
Surrey SU95 W. GUILDFORD/ WOKING 1
Surrey TQ06 WEYBRIDGE 2
Surrey TQ16 KINGSTON & ESHER 2
Warwickshire SP47 RUGBY 1
West Sussex SU70 HAVANT 7
West Yorkshire SD92 TODMORDEN 1
West Yorkshire SE02 HALIFAX 3
West Yorkshire SE98 SNAINTON 2
Wiltshire SU04 SHREWTON 1
Wiltshire SU21 NOMANSLAND 1
 
Hivemeaker et all.

I cannot say for sure the provenance of the Greek AMM, just because they re produced there does in no way imply they originate there. I cannot determine from Bickerstaffes material that arrived with the queens what that position actually is.

PH
 
Perhaps they could be asked,but the interest is in locally produced pure AMM,that are produced in our climate, which i would say is Wales,Scotland, England,Ireland.Maybe the Greeks get them from Ireland. Also interested how they keep them pure AMM,with all the mongrels around,where ever they are in uk apart from Ireland.
 
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