when did EFB become notifiable

[Hivemaker.]

Since hive makers post saying 1942, i have been sent a pdf that says the control orders were made in 1942 but it became notifiable in 1982

so what happended between 1942 and 1982, was it self imposed destruction if you had EFB?

EFB and AFB became notifiable in 1942, there have been several changes since to include other problems,such as varroa,tropilaelaps ect, encompassing the foul brood law. such as the bees act 1982.

 

[Teemore]

Sick sound?

Probably more like a lack of sound... Depending on the time of year a silent colony can be a dead one.

As Finman correctly points out, if you don't look at the brood frames it will be hard to confirm you have a problem.,

A range of factors, individual and combined, can draw attention to problems in a colony. Some people will be able to spot small things that will prompt them to examine colonies more closelyand please don't anyone take this as a criticism, but there are some beekeepers who need to be told by others when they have a problem with a colony....

 

[Ruary]

. I gather it is widely known that in 2010 the demonstration colonies at Gormanstoun all had EFB. I do not know how or if they were treated. EFB seems more prevalent in the South. Irish beekeepers do not have the support of any sort of formal Bee Inspectors unlike those of us in the UK. Membership of the Armagh and Monaghan Beekeepers spans the border and our bees don't really give much heed to flags or lines on maps....
Your best protection against EFB and AFB is to ensure that you, the beekeeper, does not transfer diseases between stocks of bees. It is important that you know how to recognise the signs of AFB and EFB.
At the most basic level, as beekeepers we can learn how a strong and healthy colony looks, sounds, smells and behaves: when something is not right you can then go about finding out what is wrong. Simples!!
Get a hold of the bee disease publications by FERA and by Dr Mary Coffey - they are excellent resources.

• The treatment for EFB in the Republic of Ireland is destruction by burning.
• Not all the colonies at Greenmount had EFB, but the majority of them did.
• The best protection is to know what healthy brood looks like, if your brood does not look like that then something is wrong, and should be checked out.
• I agree that the bee disease publication by FERA is excellent, but I am afraid that I cannot say the same thing for the book by Dr. Mary Coffey

 

[justme]

It seems strange that there should be such divergent views on this disease from the authorities, (not the people on this forum).

AFAIK it always was reckoned to be a fairly innocuous malady in the UK and one which otherwise strong colonies would overcome which is exactly the thinking here. Destruction would never come into it, shook swarm maybe as with AFB or simply leave alone and keep an eye on things.

Chris

Afb colonies are destroyed not shook swarmed in UK. Best way too IMHO.

 

[mbc]

Afb colonies are destroyed not shook swarmed in UK. Best way too IMHO.

Chris is in France, where ( please correct me if I'm wrong ) if you suspect afb a nice inspector from the Agent Sanitaire d’Apiculture will come along, and if afb is confirmed, will shook swarm your bees onto fresh frames and foundation( supplied by the inspector, free of charge) disinfect the boxes, take away the old frames for safe disposal and come back in a month or so to check the infection hasnt reappeared.

 

[blackcavebees]

• The treatment for EFB in the Republic of Ireland is destruction by burning.
• Not all the colonies at Greenmount had EFB, but the majority of them did.
• The best protection is to know what healthy brood looks like, if your brood does not look like that then something is wrong, and should be checked out.
• I agree that the bee disease publication by FERA is excellent, but I am afraid that I cannot say the same thing for the book by Dr. Mary Coffey

It wasn't Greenmount (NI agricultural college) but Gormanstown (ROI FIBKA Conference)

 

[Ruary]

It wasn't Greenmount (NI agricultural college) but Gormanstown (ROI FIBKA Conference)

Sorry for the typo. I did mean Gormanston ( it could not have been Greenmount as they dod not have demonstration hives) but my comments stand regarding the amount of colonies found with EFB.

 

[blackcavebees]

Sorry for the typo. I did mean Gormanston ( it could not have been Greenmount as they dod not have demonstration hives) but my comments stand regarding the amount of colonies found with EFB.

No problem, I assumed it was a typo, but that's how stories start sometimes. Are you the Ruary that demonstrates microscopy by any chance?

Stephen

 

[Teemore]

• Not all the colonies at Gormanstown (my edit - Teemore) had EFB, but the majority of them did.

Some stories grow in the telling and it is always possible that the folk I have spoken with were not shown all the hives used for the practical assessments. They had never seen EFB before and jumped at the chance to be shown what an infected stock (brood) looks and smells like (although I gather the smell is generally considered to derive from secondary infections...)

When I think about it, there was never any indication that the observation hive in the corridor had EFB and they have left the feral colony in the grounds alone so i would imagine that they do not think it was infected either. You may well be correct that not all the colonies at Gormanstown had EFB that year .

 

[Ruary]

When I think about it, there was never any indication that the observation hive in the corridor had EFB and they have left the feral colony in the grounds alone so i would imagine that they do not think it was infected either.

I am afraid that the feral colony died out some years before (probably as a result of varroa). The observation hive in the corridor did not have EFB it had a nice case of AFB that year!

 

[Teemore]

I hadn't heard about the AFB! I missed all the excitement... Last year was the first I attended Gormanstown.

A friend who stayed over for the duration of Gormanstown this year, commented on there being a couple of feral colonies in the grounds at present. I wonder how long they will survive.

By any chance do you have the up-to-date figures to hand about AFB/EFB in Ireland? From memory, we were told there had been approx. 190 'ish' tests carried out.

 

[Ruary]

I missed all the excitement... Last year was the first I attended Gormanstown.

By any chance do you have the up-to-date figures to hand about AFB/EFB in Ireland? From memory, we were told there had been approx. 190 'ish' tests carried out.

No, details on the figures might be able to get them for you in a fortnight.

The old feral colony was in the tower.

This year 2012 was the first year I missed in about 14 years. Used to demonstarte microscopy which is how I knew about disease status.