What did you do in the 'workshop' today

[Wilco]

Doesn’t say anywhere small flocks ( I have three hens) have to be fenced in an enclosed run or have I missed something?

Applies to all bird keepers. Says in the subtitle

 

[Erichalfbee]

Applies to all bird keepers. Says in the subtitle

I must re read it
I know I’m subject to the minimum requirements. I’ll have another look

 

[Erichalfbee]

Applies to all bird keepers. Says in the subtitle

(6) feed and water are kept, and birds are fed, indoors or under a covered area of the outdoor range area which sufficiently discourages the landing of wild birds and thereby prevents contact with wild birds through water or feed;
Is it enough to keep food and water in an indoor run while still allowing the hens to free range in the garden?
(7) measures are in place to ensure that wild birds are not attracted to the vicinity of the outdoor range area, in particular to permanent puddles, ponds or other standing water;
Such as?
(8) active measures (for example, bird scares, foils, streamers) are taken to discourage wild birds from entering the outdoor range area;
Seems to imply that the outdoor range are doesn't need to be covered?

Not splitting hairs here simply trying to understand

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Doesn’t say anywhere small flocks ( I have three hens) have to be fenced in an enclosed run or have I missed something?

It just stipulates you must make every effort to avoid wild birds using their watering or feeding stations

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Applies to all bird keepers. Says in the subtitle

the biosecurity measures apply to all, but there is a different regime for larger scale poultry keepers.
Basically, you have to take reasonable measures to discourage wild birds from mixing with, or sharing food and water with captive birds.
Luckily I haven't removed the anri sparrow netting from the outside run since last year
or the year before

 

[JamezF]

I finally got around to making new frames for two QXes that I've had sitting about in the workshop for ages. They are quite old and several of the tenons used in the bridle joints at the corners had snapped. I had been thinking of just remaking the broken parts, but in the end it was just easier to build complete new frames.

Unusually (in my limited experience) they have a small plate crimped across some of the wires at one corner with what I assume to be the manufacturer's name, some sort of registration number and "MADE IN ENGLAND" embossed on it. I can't make out the manufacturer's name though. It could be something like "Wardon". No-one I'd heard of, anyhow. I'll see if I can make anything more out with a magnifying glass tomorrow.

They're also odd in having an obviously rectangular space for the actual QX section -- one pair of sides appears to be 1" wide whilst the other looks to be 2" wide (I'm assuming they're sufficiently old that the measurements would have been imperial).

James

 

[victor meldrew]

I finally got around to making new frames for two QXes that I've had sitting about in the workshop for ages. They are quite old and several of the tenons used in the bridle joints at the corners had snapped. I had been thinking of just remaking the broken parts, but in the end it was just easier to build complete new frames.

Unusually (in my limited experience) they have a small plate crimped across some of the wires at one corner with what I assume to be the manufacturer's name, some sort of registration number and "MADE IN ENGLAND" embossed on it. I can't make out the manufacturer's name though. It could be something like "Wardon". No-one I'd heard of, anyhow. I'll see if I can make anything more out with a magnifying glass tomorrow.

They're also odd in having an obviously rectangular space for the actual QX section -- one pair of sides appears to be 1" wide whilst the other looks to be 2" wide (I'm assuming they're sufficiently old that the measurements would have been imperial).

James

Hi James . I have a QX damaged in the same way . . You’ve fired me up into thinking of repairing mine
when I need a QX the first one I pick up is invariably the damned broken one .

 

[JamezF]

Hi James . I have a QX damaged in the same way . . You’ve fired me up into thinking of repairing mine
when I need a QX the first one I pick up is invariably the damned broken one .

It's a damn sight better than paying almost £20 for a new one

I've had a look at the plate attached to the wires again and it definitely says "WALDRON'S EXCLUDER". I can't find any meaningful reference to Waldron in the context of queen excluders online, so I guess it must be quite old.

James

 

[Anduril]

https://beekeepingforum.co.uk/threads/queen-excluder.19576/Small reference to Waldron excluders

 

[Wilco]

I'm no use for the brand question but STBK had 10 wooden framed ones for £75 earlier this year. Bee space both sides IIRC but I'm happy with them.

 

[JamezF]

I'm no use for the brand question but STBK had 10 wooden framed ones for £75 earlier this year. Bee space both sides IIRC but I'm happy with them.

I'll try to remember that when I next need some, though happily I think that will be at least eighteen months away unless I catch a whole load of early swarms next year

James

 

[JamezF]

https://beekeepingforum.co.uk/threads/queen-excluder.19576/Small reference to Waldron excluders

Aha! Thank you.

James

 

[pargyle]

https://beekeepingforum.co.uk/threads/queen-excluder.19576/Small reference to Waldron excluders

and here:
http://www.croydonbeekeepers.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Newsletter-september-2012.pdf

 

[JamezF]

and here:
http://www.croydonbeekeepers.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Newsletter-september-2012.pdf

Well, that's quite an amusing read

James

 

[JamezF]

Been making up a few brood chambers that I bought in the sales. I probably don't absolutely need them, but at some point in the season I always seem to find there's some damage to a box I want to use that I'd not noticed when I was doing repairs, so having a few more means I can avoid having a mad rush to fix stuff next year.

I was taught to assemble brood boxes in such a way that the frame rails allow a frame to sit so the top is fractionally (perhaps 1mm) below the edges of the box. When I've done that it's clear that the rebates in the upper side rails line up with the top faces of the "inner" sides of the box so it all seems logical. When I used some old frame rails I had lying around that worked out as expected.

However, some frame rails I bought earlier this year (from the same place as the boxes) have a shorter angled side, so they don't stand as high -- only about 4mm. That being less than a bee space I'd expect it to encourage the bees to propolise the undersides of the frame lugs to the box And obviously there will be correspondingly larger gap between the frame tops and the underside of the frames in any box above them. I'm going to have to be a bit careful about how I use them.

James

 

[Kaz]

I don't have a workshop per se, but I have had some old hive parts kicking around for a while which I wasn't sure what to do with, this week I finally managed to get one of my neighbours to rip them into equal widths and made up a few of these. Not perfect by any means but I'm still quite pleased with the results

 

[Erichalfbee]

They look pretty good for just being “ripped up” Those angles have to be right.

 

[victor meldrew]

I'm no use for the brand question but STBK had 10 wooden framed ones for £75 earlier this year. Bee space both sides IIRC but I'm happy with them.

Bee spaces both sides are a no no !.
you need 1 bee space frame top to QX
a bee space over the QX plus the bee space below the super equal a double bee space.
assuming you have bottom bee space boxes .

 

[Wilco]

Bee spaces both sides are a no no !.
you need 1 bee space frame top to QX
a bee space over the QX plus the bee space below the super equal a double bee space.
assuming you have bottom bee space boxes .

I know that's the principle although it hasn't actually caused an issue for me with these. For anyone particularly worried it's not hard to sand down the bee space on one side of the STBK ones.

 

[Erichalfbee]

I have some of those and I have top space. Not an issue. I’m happy with them.