very aggressive bees

[Millet]

don't do it!

Suggesting the colony should be killed due to one problem bee is like carpet bombing a town because one of the residents has an ASBO.

IMHO, the only reason to kill bees is disease.

If the queen is the problem, it is not too late to raise your own (despite the weather!).
Alternatively, give them a new queen (prefered BECAUSE of the weather!). Personally, I would use the NUC creation method, and unite.

'If' the issue is genetics, the bees themselves may be grouchy. If this is the case, they will be replaced as the old bees die, and the new bees are born.

Alternatively, defensive bees are great donors for NUC creation.

If you want help dealing with them, PM me. You can't be a million miles away.

 

[whoosling]

don't do it!

Suggesting the colony should be killed due to one problem bee is like carpet bombing a town because one of the residents has an ASBO.

IMHO, the only reason to kill bees is disease.

If the queen is the problem, it is not too late to raise your own (despite the weather!).
Alternatively, give them a new queen (prefered BECAUSE of the weather!). Personally, I would use the NUC creation method, and unite.

'If' the issue is genetics, the bees themselves may be grouchy. If this is the case, they will be replaced as the old bees die, and the new bees are born.

Alternatively, defensive bees are great donors for NUC creation


If you want help dealing with them, PM me. You can't be a million miles away.

That's really kind thankyou very much i've got plenty of ideas to go through first but may take you up on that

 

[whoosling]

Having experienced nasty bees myself I know what you are going through.Split the flying bees from the brood as others have said if you still cannot find the queen in the brood box put a box below, brush the bees into it and then put a queen excluder on top and the brood box on top of that the nurse bees will repopulate the brood leaving the queen in the bottom box.The first time I dealt with my nasty bees I foregot to reunite the flying bees back with the brood box they somehow managed to get a new queen they have been one of my best hives this year.

 

[mazzamazda]

With Ibericas I'm in a different league to nasty bees, I get followed in the van to my house, believe it or not! Nearly impossible to requeen.

I'd get your strongest hive put it in the place of the nasty bee hive, reduce the entrance and smoke. This gets rid of your foragers and populates your other hive without fighting.

Order a mated queen.

Move hive again after a few days if nec.

Try and locate your queen or work out if its queenless. At this point I'd split into a really weak nuc say 2 or 3 frames with sealed brood, put your queen in an intro cage, Mike Palmer method and observe what the bees are doing after a few days, I've had a queen in the cage for over a month but I'm sure this isnt nec.

Dont kill the bees, good luck!

 

[kevrhcfag]

Hose pipe is a handy thing

 

[Amari]

Pardon?

 

[Clemcook]

I've resorted to a hose pipe a few times when trying to get back in the house lol

 

[whoosling]

outcome for bad bees

Just to let you know the outcome for my bad bees! I sealed up and moved the hive quite away away from original site and put a nuc box in it's place with foundation. Left original hive for a few hours then dressed for battle and went to inspect, it was so much easier with so many less bees to look through. For once I found the queen and dipatched her angriness. Even though she was an evil tempered so and so it still seemed strange to squash her. The rest of the bees at least as many as I could I'm uniting with another hive over paper, never done this so fingers crossed. It was refreshing to go and look at my hives this morning without being attacked, thankyou all for suggestions and help