Varroa natural mite drop

[parkranger]

Mines always out.

Wife tells me off for spending too much time looking at it.

Dishmop, put it away, it's not a pretty sight!

 

[Finman]

Not exactly, but the example was related to your constant references to mites doubling in population over specific given periods of time.

Yes, it is a month, not a week

The same has said in FERA varroa booklet.


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Dont use giant hives then.

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Giant hive brings about 300 lbs honey.

It would be very expencive treament method, if I give up my nursing style

"Do't treat and get 30 lbs honey per hive". That I call a deligious deal!

Last time I got 30 lbs honey from hive 1965. I remember because 1966 I got 100 lbs on average. I was in army then.

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[Finman]

Not exactly, but the example was related to your constant references to mites doubling in population over specific given periods of time.

Yes, it is a month, not a week

The same has said in FERA varroa booklet.


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Dont use giant hives then.

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Giant hive brings about 300 lbs honey.

It would be very expencive treament method, if I give up my nursing style

"Do't treat and get 30 lbs honey per hive". That I call a deligious deal!

Last time I got 30 lbs honey from hive 1965. I remember because 1967 I got 100 lbs on average. I was in army then.

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[Dishmop]

It would be very expencive treament method, if I give up my nursing style

If you told the tax man you would be able to claim for losses.

 

[davnig]

I take digital photos of all my frames as I go through the hive and sit and look at them on my PC - you can blow them up to the point where you really can look very closely at the bees and the comb - DWV (not that I have any) would be instantly seen at high resolution on a PC Screen, I do accept that mites are not so easy to spot as they tend to be under the bee.

Following the thread with interest and tend to agree with don't treat unless you can see evidence - common sense really. Just make sure you know what evidence you are looking for. It just isn't common sense or good welfare-wise or finance-wise to treat without evidence.

As an aside - how do you position the frames to take the pics, do you have a frame holder (human or mineral!) or do it using other frames as lever points. Been thinking of doing this but wondering of best/easiest way of doing so - cheers

 

[Finman]

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This disscussion is mad, seen from every corner of issue.

I hope that all discussers are in good condition.

May god bless you all.

I am not any more worried about varroa. It is a easy piece.

 

[Dishmop]

I have no objection to the way you wish to treat your bees but just because its your method, doesnt mean that you are right, or that it is the correct and only way to do it.
Other people seem to manage with pest management control and use chemicals only when and if needed.
You insult UK beekeepers who dont agree with what you keep quoting from papers but very rarely offer any advice developed from your own experiences which might be helpful in getting rid of varroa.
Why do you keep reading these papers.. They only tell us that bees have varroa. We know that. What we are waiting for is when they tell us that a permanent cure has been found. Many cures for illness have been dicovered by accident.

Your only objective is to create as much honey as possible. I have no problem with that but again you insult anybody who wishes to keep bees as a hobby and not to make money. You dont seem to be able to understand the logic.
You make a habit of telling everybody that you went to university as if it automatically makes you an expert beekeeper...
Face to face I am sure you are a very nice person, but it doesnt do you any favours when you tell everybody that what you say is the only way, or call people with other ideas stupid one hive UK owners living in the dark ages.

 

[Finman]

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God bless you



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[Dusty Rhodes]

God bless you

Sorry, Finman - but do you have a license to do that?

I do.

Please - just leave it to the professionals.


Honestly, these two-prayer people! Think they can come on here dispensing their blessings as if they know what they're talking about!
And it's no use saying things are different so far away from the UK.


I've been dispensing blessings for over forty years now - and read the research on it. I know what I'm doing.

(Etc. etc.)



Dusty.

 

[pargyle]

Following the thread with interest and tend to agree with don't treat unless you can see evidence - common sense really. Just make sure you know what evidence you are looking for. It just isn't common sense or good welfare-wise or finance-wise to treat without evidence.

As an aside - how do you position the frames to take the pics, do you have a frame holder (human or mineral!) or do it using other frames as lever points. Been thinking of doing this but wondering of best/easiest way of doing so - cheers

Can't post photos from here ... My hive is a long hive with a hinged apex roof. Inside the roof I put a couple of hinged brackets which swing down and clip in place then I can hang the frames, as I take them out one at a time, on them and photo them with free hands. Before I added my 'frame hanger' I found it near impossible to hold a frame with one hand and photo it with the other ... I'll PM you a link to my cloud of photos when I get home and you'll see what I mean.

 

[Finman]

Sorry, Finman - but do you have a license to y.

I do not believe God at all. ...But what else I can do?



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[Dusty Rhodes]

I do not believe God at all.....

But unlike some members of the Forum, she believes in you.


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[pargyle]

But unlike some members of the Forum, she believes in you.


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Too late ,,,, he's hit the ignore God button ...

 

[Stickyfingers]

[QUOTE You insult UK beekeepers who dont agree with what you keep quoting from papers but very rarely offer any advice developed from your own experiences which might be helpful in getting rid of varroa.
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He's telling you to treat your hives from his own experience...it's pretty simple.

 

[jd101k2000]

I don't think Finman was blessing on behalf of God, I think he was dispensing his own blessings!

Not believing in God would be the same as not believing in himself!!!!!

 

[Luminos]

 

[Finman]

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Not believing in God would be the same as not believing in himself!!!!!

God helps only those who help themselves.

Muhammed version:

One day Prophet Muhammad noticed a Bedouin leaving his camel without tying it and he asked the Bedouin, “Why don’t you tie down your camel?” The Bedouin answered, “I put my trust in all-ah.” The Prophet then said, “Tie your camel first, then put your trust in all-lah”


An author Linjutang wrote about religious people. They are selfish. When sailing ship goes downwind, he thanks after trip that he got downwind. But he does not think at all those who got headwind because of him

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[Dishmop]

He's telling you to treat your hives from his own experience...it's pretty simple.

of which a lot is not relevant because we live in a damp climate and he lives in a cold dry climate.. where you go mad from the constant drone from studded car tyres.

 

[Finman]

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He's telling you to treat your hives from his own experience...it's pretty simple.

I have not told about my own experience.

I have treated my hives only with oxalic trickling 10 years.

I have told about work results of European Varroa group Work 1998-2006

and some later knowledge, like sveral treatments with oxalic.

 

[Finman]

of which a lot is not relevant because we live in a damp climate and he lives in a cold dry climate.. where you go mad from the constant drone from studded car tyres.

I have not told about my own experience.

I have treated my hives only with oxalic trickling 10 years.

I have told about work results of European Varroa group Work 1998-2006

and some later knowledge, like sveral treatments with oxalic.


Guys, you are not able to read original researches, not even with aid.

You have automatic rejection to things, which are too difficult. Braions just don't catch information.

Even week and month is the same to Dishmop and he thinks that I have invented the fact which he could read from Fera's papers.

They are not even capaple to read this text just now.

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