- Jun 7, 2009
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...as long as you can cope with an excluder that doesn't have any bee space and even if framed in wood to have a bee space it will still sag because the material lacks stiffness due to cost engineering taking precedence over basic functionality. The only thing that would stop it sagging is a frame with a central support, and that will violate the bee space.Plastic excluders work well
With a little thought the design could have been so much better with a proper shaped rim incorporating a bee space on one side and moulded using a material that wouldn't sag significantly. But by then it might be a few quid more and costing as much as properly engineered excluder.
Its a common trait with quite a few bits of bee kit, they seem to be specified, designed and manufactured (actually that implies a controlled process, make it thrown together) by people that haven't a bloody clue.
Smokers, are often lacking in many areas, hopeless ergonomically making them strange to hold, with bits that regularly gum up, bellows holes you can't block to stop burning, wing nuts surrounded by metalwork so that you can't move them without the aid of a tool, crap spot welding, and sharp edges everywhere.
Extractors too, particularly 2 frame tangential extractors that have wide crossmembers at the top making it a pain in the ass to fit frames with widely drawn combs and the positioning of honey valves that leave considerable residue in the bottom of the tank.
Apideas with the frame feeder that is just ripe for crushing the queen when she hides on the floor when you want to replace the feeder, and also apidea top feeders that can fit on back to front and give robbers direct access to the feeder whilst excluding the occupants of the hive.
But going back to excluders, I have a few plastic excluders, bought blind when they first appeared. I used them for not much more than a couple of weeks. They are better than an unframed slotted excluder, but that's not saying much as those abominations are fit only for the bin. I'd only ever use the plastic excluders again when I've nothing else available, the rest of the time they stop with the clearer boards and spare supers just cluttering the place up.
Wire excluders are just so much better in every respect, preferably Lega (Italian) manufactured ones, the last ones I bought from Thornes weren't, and they were bent like a banana in transit and those that weren't bent had uneven wire spacing.