syrup poored into frames

[wightbees]

Can it bee poored straight into empty comb frames ?
I was just thinking that i am sure i read it somewhere.

 

[Flatters]

I think most of it will run right through and end up on floor. You may have read that 'if the bees are not taking the syrup then you can trickle some in and it gives them a big hint there is syrup above'. I did this where hive was suffering from nosema and they were not taking much syrup down. It really got them started on taking the syrup and probably forced them to take the medicine and so help them recover.

Remember it should be thymolised syrup to stop it fermenting and also help with nosema

 

[Chris Luck]

Remember it should be thymolised syrup to stop it fermenting and also help with nosema

In your opinion please, there is no should about it, I don't use it "thymolised" and have no problems with either factors mentioned.

Chris

 

[Heather]

But running off the frames and through will encourage robbing- wasps still about and weak colonies made very vulnerable - don't do it!
If nec. use a frame feeder

 

[Flatters]

All of my posts are my opinion and I don't profess them to be science fact. I take everyone's posts as an opinion and make my own judgement.

 

[nonstandard]

I had a colony on the brink of starvation earlier this year and as an emergency measure I lifted a couple of frames out laid them horizontal and trickled syrup into the open cells.; It was surprising how much went in.

Here in Derbyshire it's a bit cold to be opening up the hive now though and most of mine have stopped feeding although some are still a bit light. I am expecting to be putting fondant on around Christmas time as insurance.

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[Finman]

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Keep some container or pool under the comb that over runned syrup does not go wasted.

Keep the frame in 60 degree angle when you pour. The style shoud be so that syrup hits in combs edge and press air out off cells. Pour syryp about feet high. When you learn it, it is fast. Then let the syrup drill 10 min before yout put frame in to the hive.

I have done much this.

 

[Finman]

But running off the frames and through will encourage robbing- wasps still about and weak colonies made very vulnerable - don't do it!
If nec. use a frame feeder

autch, autch....

 

[wightbees]

Thanks for the replys.
So say i have poored syrup straight into frames ,has this saved any time for the bees by
them not having to move it all from the feeder?

 

[Skyhook]

Thanks for the replys.
So say i have poored syrup straight into frames ,has this saved any time for the bees by
them not having to move it all from the feeder?

Probably not- they will have to get it out to precess it before they can store it. Pouring onto frames is to save a starving colony that might not make it to the feeder,

 

[Rosti]

As with Heather, frame feeder this time of year if you feel compelled to continue with syrup. My choice if they are known to be light is a slab of fondant now, otherwise heft and slap it on Xmas as per Nonstds advice.

 

[wightbees]

some of you must be cold lol.sun still shining and out in a t shirt still.
bees all flying strong late this afternoon,so fondant here is a bit early lol.
as for the topic,its just a wondering mind.

 

[Finman]

I use upper feeder but sometimes bees do not take syrup from there. The hive has probably winter mode on.
If the amount is big, I put the poured frames under the wintering box. Bees move the syrup up from poured combs.

Strong hive handle robbers.

Pouring as feeding is a dirty job. with upper feeder one box hive take winter food in two days in.

In emergency feeding I use pouring system. I do not use fondant at all.

 

[Finman]

As with Heather, frame feeder this time of year if you feel compelled to continue with syrup. My choice if they are known to be light is a slab of fondant now, otherwise heft and slap it on Xmas as per Nonstds advice.

frame feeder is not meant to use as winter feeder.

 

[Heather]

No, but frame feeder in the UK whilst the bees still working may save a small colony that isn't going up to a contact feeder.
Ok for a well practised bee keeper to pour into frames- but I bet it will only invite disaster with most!
You wouldn't probably be doing such a thing on a strong colony, Finman- but a weak one- and I still think inviting robbing.
You never made it over here to discuss these differences of opinion despite my invite last year!


I fondant when hives become dormant. Just insurance.

 

[Rosti]

frame feeder is not meant to use as winter feeder.

As per Heather - Ditto!

 

[Mike a]

@Wightbees - I fed each of mine a couple of litres of thymol syrup in September and now giving them large lumps of fondant every two-three weeks. Heafting the hives has been useful to gauge the weight and I'm glad to say each week they are noticeably heavier thanks to the fine weather and the mass of Ivy still out in flower which they are visiting constantly.

 

[oliver90owner]

frame feeder is not meant to use as winter feeder.

I have a MB jumbo nuc with 14 x 12 frames. It is only on five frames at the moment.
Oh dear, it looks like I may be bucking the trend/advice - as I intend, if necessary, to fill a frame feeder with fondant and put it in the hive.

RAB

 

[Vergilius]

No, but frame feeder in the UK whilst the bees still working may save a small colony that isn't going up to a contact feeder.
Ok for a well practised bee keeper to pour into frames- but I bet it will only invite disaster with most!
You wouldn't probably be doing such a thing on a strong colony, Finman- but a weak one- and I still think inviting robbing.
You never made it over here to discuss these differences of opinion despite my invite last year!


I fondant when hives become dormant. Just insurance.

And, btw for Flatters, the vast majority of beeks I know do not thymolise their syrup... It is only due to Hivemaker's influence on this forum that so many of its members do add thymol to the autumn feed. I for one can't bee bothered, so don't...


Ben P

 

[wightbees]

Manley book mentions the use of thermol also.
at the mo here on the island my bees are taking
syrup down and there is lots of ivy about.like i said earlier
in the day just a t shirt so theres still time yet befor I go the. fondant route .