OA dribble

[Finman]

Quote From Finman
8th November 2008, 05:20 PM
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To smaller dosage 3-5 hive langstroth

100 g sugar
100 g water
7,5 g oxalic acid.

Finman, is this still the same recipe you use when you do you oxalic Acid dribble?

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IT is same.

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[Finman]

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To douple brood 50 ml
To one box 30 ml.

3 ml/bees filled seems.

Bigger dosages make bees wet, but amount is not poisonous.

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[For want of a better word]

I have dribbled since 2003.....
and on here since 2008 !!!

Keep on Dribbling!


( Annual Winter topic... early this year!)

Nos da

 

[Millet]

I have dribbled since 2003.....
and on here since 2008 !!!

Keep on Dribbling!


( Annual Winter topic... early this year!)

Nos da

I used to dribble but i got some tablets from my GP, that solved the problem but the gassing is a unreal side effect..

 

[Finman]

I have dribbled since 2003.....
and on here since 2008 !!!

Keep on Dribbling!


( Annual Winter topic... early this year!)

Nos da

I started dribbling with Perizin in the year 1987.
Last Black Bees were flying on sky on those days.

Annual Winter topic in Britain. Not in Finland.
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As well syrup making and from where to get Sugar...
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[Ely]

I agree ... and I think it's also generally beneficial in the UK. The big knockdown of phoretic mites achievable with a well-timed winter treatment makes a very big difference to late Spring/early Summer mite levels.

Do the maths ... based upon the doubling time for the mite population and a starting population of 20 or 200 ... it's the difference between being below or above the NBU recommended mite numbers per colony.

Like Hivemaker I suspect the majority who do treat in winter dribble.

This forum is filled with vapaholics.

And I've got and use a Sublimox.

There is also a lot to be said about bees becoming reinfested during late flows, usually after treatment such as Ivy flows. The bees are foraging at a much more concentrated level. A simple trickle does no harm. The benefits strongly out-way the negatives. All you need is a syringe, OA crystals and syrup. Yes you may lose 5 or 6 bees but since when did the honest beekeeper care about the loss of the odd bee during the honey harvest even when essential due care and consideration is considered?

 

[Millet]

Whoo lala wrong thread..

 

[Erichalfbee]

There is also a lot to be said about bees becoming reinfested during late flows, usually after treatment such as Ivy flows.

It pays to keep an eye on that.
Two of my colonies are on a second round after dropping a decent number of mites which then tailed off nicely.
Six weeks down the line it was obvious that mites had built up again.

 

[Uncle Betty]

Whoo lala wrong thread..

I was wondering what the hell... ?

 

[mazzamazda]

Do we know how many days the OA dribble is effective? I have been vaping my hives this autumn (Never ever ever again). I'm aware the vaping covers a 5 day period, would the dribble do the same?

 

[Erichalfbee]

Do we know how many days the OA dribble is effective? I have been vaping my hives this autumn (Never ever ever again). I'm aware the vaping covers a 5 day period, would the dribble do the same?

Three days according to LASI

Why never ever ever again?

 

[Finman]

Do we know how many days the OA dribble is effective? I have been vaping my hives this autumn (Never ever ever again). I'm aware the vaping covers a 5 day period, would the dribble do the same?

Dribbling kills mites 4 weeks. After 2 weeks mite fall is biggest. IT is same with vaping.

Dribbling works only in broodless hives. IT kills open brood. 80% out of mites are under cappings.

IT South Europe guys develop Queen arresting. The Queen lays only in small area. Then the frame ir such us destroyded and other mites are tree to kill.


In continental Europe 7 days interval is common in vaping. 5 days is an UK innovation which is based on nothing.

As seen, clyserol and oxalic acid chould work in South.

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[Finman]

Three days according to LASI

Why never ever ever again?

What is 3 days?

 

[Plenty of honey]

FInman, do you do any treatment other than a dribble treatment later in the year?

 

[mazzamazda]

Three days according to LASI

Why never ever ever again?

I didn't think it was anywhere as effective as Amitraz and way way more labour intensive. I still have collapsing hives I know Amitraz would have saved. I think vaping has a place with broodless hives and have had good success with it. When you have to vape 4+ times its madness. I have currently wasted 15 days treating, 500 miles travelled, humping around a huge battery, physically shattered when I should have been doing other things: and still not got a result. Amitraz, 2 days, 8 hours treat and forget.

 

[mazzamazda]

Dribbling works only in broodless hives. IT kills open brood. 80% out of mites are under cappings.

IT South Europe guys develop Queen arresting. The Queen lays only in small area. Then the frame ir such us destroyded and other mites are tree to kill.

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I forgot it kills open brood, thanks.

I think I will seriously consider caging queen for the next treatment, how many days? 16?

 

[Plenty of honey]

I forgot it kills open brood, thanks.

I think I will seriously consider caging queen for the next treatment

Me too, very good point, why its only a winter broodless option, if there isn't any brood that is, there is always a tiny bit!

 

[Erichalfbee]

What is 3 days?

Mark asked how long oxalic dribble was effective for.
I presumed he meant how long the solution kills mites for after application.
My answer, taken from Randy Oliver and LASI is three days.
AS soon as you apply the dribble it starts killing mites. It does that for three days after which it stops killing.

 

[Erichalfbee]

I didn't think it was anywhere as effective as Amitraz and way way more labour intensive. I still have collapsing hives I know Amitraz would have saved. I think vaping has a place with broodless hives and have had good success with it. When you have to vape 4+ times its madness. I have currently wasted 15 days treating, 500 miles travelled, humping around a huge battery, physically shattered when I should have been doing other things: and still not got a result. Amitraz, 2 days, 8 hours treat and forget.

I can understand that if you have lots of hives.
I have one colony that was still dropping considerable mites despite vaping seven times. I put Amitraz in and now have forgotten about them till spring.
I have two colonies that are dropping mites again six weeks after the first round of vaping finished (Lots dropped with the first two and very few with the third so I presumed it was successful).
I can see the attraction of Amitaz but I don't like the idea of what it is

 

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