New treatment

[rook66]

Anything known about this

https://www.bee-bay.net/_t/click/A1...312&utm_medium=email&utm_source=shopify_email

 

[madasafish]

Not approved by VMD
No list of ingredients shown
" Disrupts the hydrocarbon mask between the mite and host bee " What does that actually mean.?

Would I want to be spend money on an unapproved unknown product which may or may not taint my wax and/or honey and with no evidence of any testing and its results?


I believe the common parlance is "snake oil".

 

[rook66]

Not approved by VMD
No list of ingredients shown
" Disrupts the hydrocarbon mask between the mite and host bee " What does that actually mean.?

Would I want to be spend money on an unapproved unknown product which may or may not taint my wax and/or honey and with no evidence of any testing and its results?


I believe the common parlance is "snake oil".

I googled 'hydrocarbon masking' and some heavy stuff came up Maybe when the scientists get up? A late night last night watching the Eurovision comedy contest!!

 

[Erichalfbee]

I googled 'hydrocarbon masking' and some heavy stuff came up Maybe when the scientists get up? A late night last night watching the Eurovision comedy contest!!

It doesn't matter what it means, it's not approved so that means illegal. Forget it.

 

[Mint Bee]

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/report-an-animal-product-being-marketed-as-a-medicine

 

[user 819]

Yes another marketed snake oil product for those who think it may be the new silver bullet. I think too may are obsessed with looking for a zero mite infestation and have to be fiddling or adding stuff in the hive to be seen as proactive, when all is needed is monitoring and a proper Autumn treatment schedule.

 

[Newbeeneil]

It doesn't matter what it means, it's not approved so that means illegal. Forget it.

I agree Dani, but that hasn't stopped miles of threads on this site discussing the use of OA.

 

[Mint Bee]

I agree Dani, but that hasn't stopped miles of threads on this site discussing the use of OA.

Ahh, but that's totally different and you will be told so in no uncertain terms if you dare to point this out

 

[Newbeeneil]

Ahh, but that's totally different and you will be told so in no uncertain terms if you dare to point this out

My tongue was so firmly in my cheek it looked like I was starring in a gay **** movie!

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Ahh, but that's totally different and you will be told so in no uncertain terms if you dare to point this out

It is totally different - OA has been extensively trialled and tested for years (decades even) and there is no doubt of its efficacy in dealing with varroa, the only 'Illegality' alleged in this country is down to the political and administrative manipulation of the system to ensure the money lines the right pockets.
However this 'new' product might as well just have 'snake oil' printed on the label. Full of meaningless jargon, the alarm bells should have started ringing as soon as the words 'premium' and 'organic' are used in the introduction and then followed by the usual buzzwords to get the sandal wearing crystal swingers all moist around the edges 'essential oils' 'herbals' 'digestive enzymes'(!!!) and amino acids.
You'd be better off popping down to your local RC church, pinching a pint of holy water from the stoup and sprinkling that on your bees
I can see an opening for our Dusty Rhodes here - the varroa exorcist!!!

 

[Mint Bee]

deleted as I believe the edits made by mods changed context of response

 

[pargyle]

One of the products they offer is Nozevit ... Nozevit is a brand name of Apivita ... they are also in danger of being sent a cease and desist as they are passsing off ~ if Apivita fins out (Nozevit sold by Thornes).

 

[Apiarisnt]

Anything known about this

https://www.bee-bay.net/_t/click/A1...312&utm_medium=email&utm_source=shopify_email

Perhaps it would work better were one to administer it only in homeopathic doses...

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Perhaps it would work better were one to administer it only in homeopathic doses...

or maybe rub it on your stiff joints (although probably not rolling them so tight would be better)

 

[Erichalfbee]

My tongue was so firmly in my cheek it looked like I was starring in a gay **** movie!

Is that what they do?

 

[Swn58]

Found by my partner.....

www.greenlightbiosciences.com

Interesting?

 

[Apiarisnt]

Found by my partner.....

www.greenlightbiosciences.com

Interesting?

Good article on this and other RNA based pesticides in this week's The Economist. Non subsrcibers can at least see en excellent picture of a varroa mite on a bee head: https: ( RNA, good for vaccines, can also be used as a pesticide ) but here are the concluding two paragraphs:

Cell game
Not surprisingly, GreenLight has rivals in its quest to develop RNA pesticides. At least two other American companies are working on them as well. AgroSpheres, in Charlottesville, Virginia, is going after diamondback moths. RNAissance Ag, Dr Helmstetter’s firm, is gunning for them too, and also the fall armyworm. All three enterprises think they can make RNA cheaply enough for it to be sprayed onto fields. But they do so in different ways.

GreenLight employs a process called cell-free biology, which is more akin to chemistry than conventional biotechnology. Eliminating the need to coddle fussy micro-organisms, says Mr Zarur, simplifies and cheapens things dramatically. But the more traditional approach taken by RNAissance and AgroSpheres, of growing their RNA molecules inside modified bacteria, offers advantages, too. Packaging the RNA in bacterial cells in this way protects the molecules. It also allows the companies’ biotechnologists to add features to the cell walls, such as stickiness that stops them slipping off the leaves of plants.

 

[madasafish]

My tongue was so firmly in my cheek it looked like I was starring in a gay **** movie!

So you were the man in that movie I was watching...

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

with the white socks or the aviator glasses?

 

[Newbeeneil]

with the white socks or the aviator glasses?

No with the plumbing wrench and the quick release overalls.