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Looks like we are going to be getting our first dog towards the end of 2018.
I've already been timetable for my share of doggy duties.
Those of you with dogs that manage their bees, especially those visiting out apiaries - does the dog go with you? Any do's and don't or precautions for a prospective new owner?
 
No. Leave the dog at home.

Bees can attack dogs. Dogs can die from the effects of bee stings.
 
Looks like we are going to be getting our first dog towards the end of 2018.
I've already been timetable for my share of doggy duties.
Those of you with dogs that manage their bees, especially those visiting out apiaries - does the dog go with you? Any do's and don't or precautions for a prospective new owner?

Leave the pooch at home... bees seem not to like black smelly ones particularly!!


Yeghes da
 
Thanks. Get the message.
Will have to look at renegotiating dog sitting days!
Or maybe get one of those dog walkies companies to take him/her out?
 
You could train the dog to stay in the cab but take time every hour for a short walk and drink, window open on hot days. But definitely not to go near the bees. It depends on what breed you get to I would of thought. Would be a challenge at first though lol.
Good luck and have fun, it never goes to plan though I have found they also read different books and can do the opposite to what you was hoping lol
 
I've always had dogs. They're an important addition to my life. This is something that I wrote about my old bee dog...sort of. Charlotte was one smart dog.


So, I'm always short on help. I'll hire just about anyone. And I've had all kinds.

The year was 2000, referred to by some at the time as Y2K. I was trying to do harvest alone...700 colonies. Anybody willing to carry full supers to the truck looked good, and got the job. There was this one guy, Jamie. Nice enough: Dyslexic as could be, but not a drunk or a drug addict. Played classical piano as a teenager. Interesting enough to talk to, he came from the same area of the Neversink River valley in New York State that my ancestors settled, early in the eighteenth century. Bit of a kook Jamie was. Every time we drove past a cemetery, he'd hold up his hand, putting it down after we had passed by. A few times of that, and I gave him a look, as if to say, “What gives”?

“Oh says Jamie, I'm just saying hi”. As I said...just about any help looked good at that point.

First yard, I show him what to do. I Bee-Go the bees and he carries the super to the truck. I show him how to stack and cover the supers so the robbers don't get going. He's in full suit, and I'm in a tee shirt. My Hound Charlotte is on the front seat of the truck...not allowed out in that yard...traffic problems.

So Jamie can't figure which side of the super is up. Don't ask how he flips them, but needless to say, the supers aren't being sacked squarely. And the robbers are starting. I straighten the stacks, and show him again. But he just doesn't get it. It ain’t easy when you don't know which end is up.

And now the robbers are really going wild. And he's in a full suit and I'm in a tee shirt with no veil. And the bees are on me like flies on some stinky thing. And they're after him in a cloud. And he's opening the truck door, and my poor Charlotte is covered with stinging bees. And she's out of that truck like a shot.

Jamie tries to hold her, but she bites him a good one and out onto state route 7 she goes. A pickup drives past with the tailgate down, and Charlotte says, "Enough is enough." She jumps in as the truck goes past, and is gone down the road. Jamie runs off, too, leaving Mike to pick up the yard and cover the hives and get heck out of Dodge.

I found Charlotte down the road on someone's front lawn, licking her wounds, frothing at the mouth. Jamie was a bit further away...still not knowing which end was up.

And I finished the year by myself...well...with Charlotte, anyway; My Best Friend. She spent ten good years with me in the bees, and after ten years with her gone, I still miss her companionship. Someone once said that heaven is where we go to be with all the dogs we ever loved. I hope so.
 
Nice story Mike!

Hank ( Yes that is his real name... what parent calls a baby "Hank" ???.. I have met them and they are relatively normal for Cornish!) owns the apiary up on one of the old silver / copper mines rear me, keeps sheeps and alpaccas in the adjacent fields... he has a small brown boarder terrier like mut called Billy.

One day a couple of seasons back Hank brought Billy up to the fields and tied him up to the tow bar on my Defender, by the stables, next to the " bee yard" ( = apiary in UK if you are posh!!)
Yellow bees .. tendency to be a bit skittish, although I will not allow aggressiveness...

Poor Billy... covered in bees... I picked him up and chucked him in the large open and full water trough... dunking him under and scrubbing off most of the bees....
Hank.. who had been doing something to the alpaccas sauntered over to see why Billy was yelping... to see Billy run hell for leather a mile back home.....

Apparently now poor Billy quakes in his boots every time he hears a Defender and refuses to go any where near the bees!!

Say Hello the the ancestors for me!!

Yeghes da
 
I'm with Oliver 90 "leave at home" - from experience. HIves located approximate to Dog Pen. No problems for some years and then in midst of manipulation bees trapped dogs in shed and the three were very badly stung (covered). I suspect had they not been released would have been overcome. Vet had to advise. Dog pen now redundant. Dogs avoid hives save in winter where they favour to void.
 
My dog wanders around the apiary with me ...but then it's in my garden....I shoo him away when I'm working but he's happy to lie beside me and watch them on a sunny day..

He's older now and generally a bloody nuisance but obedient round the bees..

I've trained the cat to sit at a distance also when I'm working..

Wouldn't recommend it with a new younger dog!!
 
Our 4 tend to give the apiary a wide berth and if we are inspecting they are indoors, we've paid for too many holidays for our vet.

As above leave the dog at home, you can concentrate on the bees and the dog is safe.
 
Dogs and bees

Our dog (Honey, so named by the grandchildren, I wonder why) checked out the hive first time she saw it. Got pinged on the nose. So now only gets close and at high speed when chasing squirrels. I think they'll be OK.....after I had a long chat with the girls.

Mike, I loved your story. I'm smaller scale than you, but do hope Honey and the bees get on. Should be OK as long as plenty squirrels around.
 
My dog comes with me everywhere. I'm a bit surprised by everyone's advice as my own experience is that dogs are smart and learn fast how to behave around bees. She eats more of them than I'd like and probably gets stung 2 or 3 times a day, but the only way I can tell it's happened is that she chews a bit faster. She learned quickly that the entrance to a hive was no place to stick your nose on a warm day and when I'm inspecting she's learned that keeping low and still 10m away means she doesn't get bothered. She's even had a swarm land on her kennel when she was shut in and I admit she was damn pleased to be let out of there. There's 15-30 colonies at home and she has the run of the place on the odd occasion she's not with me.
It's the chickens I need to train. Long ago they discovered they could pick up a free meal around a hive( I suppose feeding odd bits of drone comb hasn't helped) but yesterday I found the cockrel on top of a nuc pecking at the celotex on top with the hens out front picking off the bees that came to investigate.
 
Our 4 tend to give the apiary a wide berth and if we are inspecting they are indoors, we've paid for too many holidays for our vet.

Why on earth would you need a vet for a bee sting?
 
Lady I help has two large and playful boxers. Lovely dogs, lively and as intelligent as a toilet brush but with less common sense.

They would insist on coming with us to watch hive inspections, but after a number of stings give hives a wide berth. So my comment above about their intelligence is perhaps a tad unfair..
 
Lady I help has two large and playful boxers. Lovely dogs, lively and as intelligent as a toilet brush but with less common sense.
.

"What doing ?"
Most boxers are about as smart as the one in the clearscore advert.
 

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