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This side reminds me quite much about "Bonsai Kitten" sides.

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Catastrophic.. Catastrophe.. Catatonic..Catalyst.....Catatonic..Catalog...:icon_204-2:

Ideal toy for a Pomeranian until the bottle breaks!!

Yeghes da
 
Catastrophic.. Catastrophe.. Catatonic..Catalyst.....Catatonic..Catalog...:icon_204-2:

Ideal toy for a Pomeranian until the bottle breaks!!

Yeghes da

Dare you to put your hand in there...if a Pom was squashed up in the bottle!
 
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That Arnia system. Sounds a well done internet joke:
http://www.arnia.co.uk/product-beekeepers/

"Our monitors provide a unique insight into hive conditions and bee behaviour which will help you to maintain strong, healthy and productive colonies. Key benefits include"

The system even have a balance which tells the weight.

- How computer makes the hive strong...

- How the computer get better pastures that hive is productive

- How computer find diseases from the hive and heal them?

- How computer can tell that hive needs more boxes and

- How it tells that hive has swarming cells

Automatic radio controlled balance is really expencive.
 
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That Arnia system. Sounds a well done internet joke.
Did you read their articles Finman? They do not look like jokes. Moreover, you`ll get majority of your questions answered. If need more info, why not ask directly their team members? Their contact details are under their photos in the “about” section: http://www.arnia.co.uk/about-us/
Here are some quotations from the articles, just to get you on hook ;) http://www.arnia.co.uk/temperature-and-thermoregulation-in-the-beehive/
“Tight thermo-control of the nest climate and specifically the brood area, which is highly sensitive to the temperature fluctuations, is achieved in the following ways. Capped brood cells are heated by bees which press their thoraces firmly down on the caps of the cells and transfer the heat to the pupae beneath the cell cap. In this way only one cell is heated and a heater bee can hold this position for up to 30 minutes while its thorax is at around 43°C. In order to minimise the dissipation of heat produced by these heater bees the other bees are thickly packed on the comb around it. The other, even more efficient way of heating the brood is by means of heater bees that occupy strategically positioned empty cells within the brood area. The capped brood area in the comb normally contains 5-10% empty cells. The percentage of empty cells varies depending on the outside climate. More than 20% empty cells in the brood of all stages can be a sign of an unusual situation in the colony. These empty cells are populated by the heater bees that insert themselves into the cell head first with their abdomens pulsating. They also have an average thorax temperature of around 43°C, while other non-heater bees’ body temperature is that of the ambient. Therefore, these heater bees are acting to heat the brood and in order to achieve this they expend tremendous amounts of energy in the form of highly concentrated honey, brought to them by other bees from the stores. Occasionally they will use the nectar from the brood area but this fuel is not as high-quality as is mature honey that is transferred from mouth to mouth (Tautz, 2008).”

“Arnia hive monitors enable beekeepers to closely track brood temperature and easily identify if it becomes unstable. The screen shot below shows a brood temperature graph from a hive fitted with a brood temperature sensor. The graph clearly shows that brood temperature is initially stable at around 34°C but then drops and becomes unstable. In this instance it was a late season dearth leading to the queen stopping laying.”

“stabilisation of brood temperature from an unstable state can be a very reliable indication that the queen has started laying as the bees have started to regulate brood temperature. This is shown on the graph below, also from a hive fitted with an Arnia hive monitor. This shows brood temperature rising and stabilising at 34°C in early March as new season brood rearing begins. It is therefore possible to identify that the queen has started laying without opening the hive.”
 
Did you read their articles Finman? They do not look like jokes. Moreover, you`ll get majority of your questions answered. If need more info, why not ask directly their team members? Their contact details are under their photos in the “about” section: http://www.arnia.co.uk/about-us/
Here are some quotations from the articles, just to get you on hook ;) http://www.arnia.co.uk/temperature-and-thermoregulation-in-the-beehive/
“Tight thermo-control of the nest climate and specifically the brood area, which is highly sensitive to the temperature fluctuations, is achieved in the following ways. Capped brood cells are heated by bees which press their thoraces firmly down on the caps of the cells and transfer the heat to the pupae beneath the cell cap. In this way only one cell is heated and a heater bee can hold this position for up to 30 minutes while its thorax is at around 43°C. In order to minimise the dissipation of heat produced by these heater bees the other bees are thickly packed on the comb around it. The other, even more efficient way of heating the brood is by means of heater bees that occupy strategically positioned empty cells within the brood area. The capped brood area in the comb normally contains 5-10% empty cells. The percentage of empty cells varies depending on the outside climate. More than 20% empty cells in the brood of all stages can be a sign of an unusual situation in the colony. These empty cells are populated by the heater bees that insert themselves into the cell head first with their abdomens pulsating. They also have an average thorax temperature of around 43°C, while other non-heater bees’ body temperature is that of the ambient. Therefore, these heater bees are acting to heat the brood and in order to achieve this they expend tremendous amounts of energy in the form of highly concentrated honey, brought to them by other bees from the stores. Occasionally they will use the nectar from the brood area but this fuel is not as high-quality as is mature honey that is transferred from mouth to mouth (Tautz, 2008).”

“Arnia hive monitors enable beekeepers to closely track brood temperature and easily identify if it becomes unstable. The screen shot below shows a brood temperature graph from a hive fitted with a brood temperature sensor. The graph clearly shows that brood temperature is initially stable at around 34°C but then drops and becomes unstable. In this instance it was a late season dearth leading to the queen stopping laying.”

“stabilisation of brood temperature from an unstable state can be a very reliable indication that the queen has started laying as the bees have started to regulate brood temperature. This is shown on the graph below, also from a hive fitted with an Arnia hive monitor. This shows brood temperature rising and stabilising at 34°C in early March as new season brood rearing begins. It is therefore possible to identify that the queen has started laying without opening the hive.”

Rubbish,
rubbish,
rubbish.....
Oh dear... Tight thermo control... Bees have taken care about that millions of years.

As stupid as monitorng bees' flying with remote camera.

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BeeBee, one example of your beekeeping understanding.

"Brood temp drops, and that is sign of Queen stops laying."

Usually Queen continues laying, but bees do not feed new larvae any more. Lack of protein perhaps.

Brood cycle is 3 weeks, and bees keep brood area warm, that almost all pupae have emerged. Bees do not kill pupae. It is hives' valuable capital. The temp must be 36C as long as hive has pupae.
 
Rubbish,
rubbish,
rubbish..... .
First of all, please stop this hysterics
As stupid as monitorng bees' flying with remote camera.
Why is it stupid? Please clarify.
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BeeBee, one example of your beekeeping understanding.
"Brood temp drops, and that is sign of Queen stops laying."
Where did you get this quotation from? I did not say that. You are on a thing line bordering with a slander, my friend.

Usually Queen continues laying, but bees do not feed new larvae any more. Lack of protein perhaps.
How would a Queen be able to fly with her swarm if her abdomen does not shrink before that ? I saw an eggs free situation in a hive before swarming; I wonder why you, as a very experienced beekeeper, did not notice that ;) ?
Brood cycle is 3 weeks, and bees keep brood area warm, that almost all pupae have emerged. Bees do not kill pupae. It is hives' valuable capital. The temp must be 36C as long as hive has pupae.
I agree that if Queen stops laying it should not stop bees to maintain a comfort temperature for the rest of her brood , which is 34`C as you can see in many sources.
 
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Continue learning. You have nothing to teach to me.
Brood temp is 33-36. In the core 36 with 0.5 degree accuracy.

But actually you need not worry about it. Bees do it.

And laying queens fly very well. As a beginner it is important to know it,

I like to open my hives, even too often. And I like to lift heavy boxes.

You do not need temperature information from your hives. Stupid idea.
If temp has dropped, what then? Or rised, what them.
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.Continue learning. You have nothing to teach to me.
Yep. I see. You are self-confident enough :)
Brood temp is 33-36. In the core 36 with 0.5 degree accuracy.But actually you need not worry about it. Bees do it.
Ok, not a big deal.
And laying queens fly very well. As a beginner it is important to know it,
With a swollen belly – only for a very short distance.
I like to open my hives, even too often. And I like to lift heavy boxes.
I know, I feel we are of the same nature ;)
.You do not need temperature information from your hives. Stupid idea.If temp has dropped, what then? Or rised, what them.
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You do not understand the whole concept. The concept is in monitoring multiple factors, not just one. And it`s you, not computer, who should react in accordance with the data received from different sensors in a hive... When the time comes, not as often as your regular inspections. George Clouston told me that it`s a change in a noise frequency that gives a clear indication that colony starts swarm preparation… Nothing new in it, is not it Finny? Tell me more about it then, Captain Obvious :)
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You do not understand the whole concept. The concept is in monitoring multiple factors, not just one. :

What were those factors?

Good factors to me are
- good queens
- big hives
- good pastures
- good luck.

How that program monitore those things?
 
How that program monitore those things?
AFAIK that program does not intervene in yours. It only helps you to do less inspections: as you know what`s going on in your hive without opening it. Thus, it gives you an extra time. The time, that you could spent on i.e. increase of your apiary, and keep 300 hives instead of 30… or more ;)
P.S.I feel I could become a good P.R. manager for the company I have no relations with...so far :)
 
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AFAIK that program does not intervene in yours. It only helps you to do less inspections: as you know what`s going on in your hive without opening it.:)

I know better than that computer, what is going in the hive.

But I see, that you do not know much about hive inspection.
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I know better than that computer, what is going in the hive.But I see, that you do not know much about hive inspection.
[FONT=&quot]Might be. But you do not want all secrets to be released, do not you ;)[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT] As I answered much more your questions, than you answered mine ;) [FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
 
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I wonder what is British moral and manners. If you show middle finger, it is worst in the world.
If you bark another person every week alcoholic on forum, that is only an intelligent joke. Ha ha haa thing.

I wonder these masters here?

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