Irradated pollen?

[Poly Hive]

Has anyone managed to source this?

Or defatted soya flour?

PH

 

[jezd]

nope, not yet, I dont think you need defatted flour mind - from my understanding the fat is needed as some point in the mix anyway

 

[Skyhook]

yes, but as I understand it soya flour has about 4 x too much, so a mix of normal and de-fatted is required.

 

[hedgerow pete]

defatted soya flour is an urban myth. it s up thjere with the tooth fairy and big foot and hedgerow suits without sequins and queens that lay 6,000 eggs a day, sorry it does not exist

which does bring to mind a question , does this mean that all veggies have to eat a full fat diet to stay alive.

i tried most of the domestic suppliers and got no where and all of the feed mills i tried dont carry it either, best i could find was poland or the usa, yep the worlds fattest country has fat free flour

 

[drstitson]

toasted soya meal (45-50% protein) is the by-product of the oil extraction process and hence is defatted. we feed it in a mix with normal food to our quails and turkeys.

in fact all game birds need soya supplement as they need 25-30% protein and normal poultry feeds are 18-20%.


http://www.ersaf.lombardia.it/uploa...3.7 Farina di estrazione di soia_784_2484.pdf

http://www.zebele.it/farina_di_soia.htm

 

[Poly Hive]

I bought de-fatted from a health shop in Loughborough two years ago.

Of course they have gone bust in the mean time, but it does certainly exist.

PH

 

[hedgerow pete]

no sorry , i was just talking to the tooth fairy and he says it does not exist.

and as for animal feeds been there done that, dont work.

to waste more time why does someone suggest that they use soya flour defatted of course in the fishing bait industry and that as such if i pop over to say SBS baits at kidderminster one day and ask if i could buy a 25 kilo bag they would say , " certain pete heres you bag of DEFFATED SOYA FLOUR" where as i got " no mate never heard of it as we can only used full fat "

i know what you mean poly hive. there was a health food shop in shipston that used to buy in for me 5 kilo bags of defatted soya flour and he could also order in used brewers yeastfrom one of the burton breweries for me i came as a thick peanut butter paste and made great patties, but those were in the days so far back i can still remember I HAD HAIR

 

[Storm™]

I bought de-fatted from a health shop in Loughborough two years ago.

Of course they have gone bust in the mean time, but it does certainly exist.

PH

At 10 am Poly, my mate Ian will be in work. He owns his own health food shop here and has for 20 odd years. Ill ask him for you. If he has some ill see where he gets it from.

 

[hedgerow pete]

please do ask for me

as i am almost out of dragons toe nails as well,

 

[Finman]

yes, but as I understand it soya flour has about 4 x too much, so a mix of normal and de-fatted is required.

That is wrong advice.

Bees stand 7% fat content because rape pollen has 7% fat.

 

[Finman]

please do ask for me

as i am almost out of dragons toe nails as well,

No. It is dragonfly toes. Dragons do not exist.

 

[hedgerow pete]

lol

 

[Storm™]

please do ask for me

as i am almost out of dragons toe nails as well,

If your going to be obtuse at least be specific,

dragons nails -

Male? Female? 1 year old two year old, green, black, blue, red,

I mean come on throw me a frickin bone here what am I a psychic.

 

[Finman]

..
Hamlet protein HP 100

Corné van der Eijk
Technical Sales Manager
Responsible for:
UK, Ireland and Middle East

[email protected]

http://www.hamletprotein.com/about-us/contact-us

Hydrolysed soya flour animal milk substituent. Non fat.

 

[Storm™]

Ok spoke to Ian (Health food shop owner) -

"defatted soy flour is in loads of things I will check and see what type ours is as we get the wholesale bag and weigh it up and put it into our own branded bags and I am not sure until I get home and look at the wholesale bag if ours is defatted. However I know that in the soya mince as well as other products an ingredient is defatted soya flour"

in addition it can be bought from amazon.com here sadly not UK but may export:

[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Defatted-Bakers-Soy-Flour-Pound/dp/B000FJQVCC[/ame]

info about it here:

http://www.soyfoods.org/products/soy-fact-sheets/soy-flour-fact-sheet

http://www.wishh.org/aboutsoy/defatted_soy_flour_reference_guide.htm

for anyone else in the world who uses this forum they can get it from the wholesalers here:

http://uk.alibaba.com/products/soy-flour.html

and if you live in Melton Mowbray you might be able to blag some from Paul who uses it in his products:

Soyfoods Ltd
66 Snow Hill
Melton Mowbray
Leics LE13 1PD

website here: http://www.soyfoods.co.uk/index2.htm

and good luck with that. As for dragons toenails they are out but you can get Dragons Blood down the road from me here:

http://www.herbmoonhollow.com/shop/

 

[hedgerow pete]

i dont need the dragons toe nails ans Puff is coming over later on to play. so we still have a few iffy leads on defatted soya but what about the first question on radiated pollen?

 

[Finman]

.
http://www.twenga.co.uk/prices-soya-flour.html

I met in this forum irradiated pollen seller from china.
Price was there 4 €/ kg

 

[victor meldrew]

No. It is dragonfly toes. Dragons do not exist.

Try telling a Welsh/ Chinese man that they don't exist .
English men would have you believe St George slayed the last one

John W

 

[Storm™]

Ok found an irradiated pollen supplier however its £20.00 for 250g LMAO - sorry thats so expensive, anyhow, apparently its also illegal to use it in anything involving the food chain for humans or food production for humans. Now someone may know better but thats what I found out. Explanation would be that anything that gets hit with high energy gamma (at this point someone is gonna say its actually X rays, I know, but you make X rays by slowing high energy gamma down fast) could make any fluid content radioactive. Thats why the water in reactors is radioactive. Its used to slow the radiation down and is known as a moderator. That said a lot of food is irradiated or used to be to stop bacterial growth. So at a loss I am afraid.

Also found this archived thread which goes into a lot of detail about the different patties.

http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-445.html

 

[wightbees]

komodo dragon comes to mind , well it's a Dragon