Home Made Oxallic Sublimator

[madasafish]

A couple of questions , hopefully some wiser heads in the DIY dept can answer.

http://www.ie.screwfix.com/soldering-drip-mat-240-x-240mm-87e23e.html would this suffice for under the element ? How do you fix it to under the element ?

http://www.ie.screwfix.com/sealed-lead-acid-battery-12v-2-1ah-67-x-35-x-178mm.html
Battery good enough , approx how many operations would this cover ?

http://www.ie.screwfix.com/ring-rcb104-4a-car-battery-charger-12v.html sufficient to recharge ?

Think I need to lie down !

2.1Ah is not enough..

You need approx 10Amps for 2 minutes to heat oxalic. =20/60 Amp Hours. or 0.33AH..

So your battery would be flat after 6 hives.. In reality, as the battery discharges, the current supplied will fall.

Buy a used car battery -40AmpHours - for £20 . It will supply all teh current you need over 5-20hives..

And of course when it is cold, batteries give less current.. And we apply oxalic in winter..

 

[BrianO]

Thanks

Sublimation of Polynucs ( Paynes ) obviously through OMF , anyone done , qty of Oxallic , time ?

 

[Hivemaker.]

Sublimation of Polynucs ( Paynes ) obviously through OMF ,

Or from the top or the entrance or a hole in the side of the box.

1g is enough.

 

[BrianO]

Thanks, is a Jewler's measuring scale really necessary or would a good digital kitchen scales suffice ?

 

[mbc]

Thanks, is a Jewler's measuring scale really necessary or would a good digital kitchen scales suffice ?

Teaspoon and eye, fractions don't make much odds in the sublimating game.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Thanks, is a Jewler's measuring scale really necessary or would a good digital kitchen scales suffice ?

I have one but I find that the small plastic spoon that Thorne put in their oxalic is fairly accurate and as accurate as you need

 

[Millet]

Instead of faffing about i bought one of these and it works spot on.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281619045550?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[madasafish]

Instead of faffing about i bought one of these and it works spot on.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281619045550?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

Mine is a crude copy of that..but 10% of the price

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Mine is a crude copy of that.

a crude copy - have you made it in the shape of a willy or what?

 

[madasafish]

a crude copy - have you made it in the shape of a willy or what?

It's in an image of John McDonnell.. red and full of hot air

 

[Cussword]

Instead of faffing about i bought one of these and it works spot on.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281619045550?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

I have the same, works well.

 

[BrianO]

Ok now you're talking, professional looking bit of kit at a decent price . Ordered !

Still going to cobble together a DIY backup model.

Thanks for all the help !

 

[BrianO]

Re Oxalic Sublimination.

Am I right in saying that always there is a need to use alternative treatments additional to this method....or... can this be used solely.

Appreciate it will only get the little B*$^%rd's in the Phoretic stage though this is also the case with MAQS and Oxalic dribble. yes ?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Re Oxalic Sublimination.

Am I right in saying that always there is a need to use alternative treatments additional to this method....or... can this be used solely.

It can be used solely - this seems to be the way forward, of course there is always the proviso that occasionally you may see the need for additional treatment

 

[Thymallus]

MAQs are supposed to get the little red (and white) barstewards inside the cells.

 

[Hivemaker.]

MAQs are supposed to get the little red (and white) barstewards inside the cells.

It is, but the problem is that it doesn't, especially in sealed drone brood.

 

[Thymallus]

So it doesn't do what it says on the label.

 

[BrianO]

Excellent.

Now on average, and i appreciate fully the answer depends on mite loads and monitoring, but, to give me a guideline, how many times would you treat an averaged sized colony per year, and approximately when ?

Again I appreciate the monitoring aspect, but good to get some indication.

Also who has switched to this method exclusively, for how long have you been operating it solely ?

Thanks

 

[madasafish]

Excellent.

Now on average, and i appreciate fully the answer depends on mite loads and monitoring, but, to give me a guideline, how many times would you treat an averaged sized colony per year, and approximately when ?

Again I appreciate the monitoring aspect, but good to get some indication.

Also who has switched to this method exclusively, for how long have you been operating it solely ?

Thanks

The rule of thumb appears to be:

If colony is broodless, 1 treatment is enough.

If there is brood, you need to kill emerging mites so 3 treatments 5 days apart.

 

[BrianO]

So , with a Vapouriser winging its way to me as we speak, I need to treat my hives. ( checked mite drop, need treating )

2.5g Acid vapourised in closed up hive for 9 minutes. You say

If there is brood, you need to kill emerging mites so 3 treatments 5 days apart.
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So I need to treat each 3 times , as I believe brood is still present looking externally at pollen flow.

Am I sounding like I have a proper plan ?