Hives on owned land

JonnyPicklechin · Jul 2, 2019

Does anyone have hives on another party's land and the land owning party has the need for some sort of tenancy agreement? If so would anyone be able to send a draft template of such an agreement?

I am moving some hives to a stately home site and will provide a fixed weight honey in return. Needs to cover rights to my gear, things like damage, risks that sort of thing.

Very simple agreement I can probably write and refine but wondered if someone had something they could share?

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downland · Jul 2, 2019

Is this any good mate?

https://beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?p=453034#post453034

Regards,

Dave

B+. · Jul 2, 2019

JonnyPicklechin said:
Does anyone have hives on another party's land and the land owning party has the need for some sort of tenancy agreement?

It's interesting that you should ask that as I encountered this last year. I have a number of apiaries on a large local estate and have always dealt directly with the farms manager. Last year, the property manager let some land/buildings adjacent to my apiary and there was some confusion over whether the apiary would be affected for a while. The property manager suggested that I pay a nominal £1 rent for the use of the land so he had a record of where my apiaries were. I would have been happy to have done this but, it occurred to me that, I was providing free pollination services and would have to bill them for this. I heard nothing more about it.

thorn · Jul 2, 2019

B+. said:
It's interesting that you should ask that as I encountered this last year. I have a number of apiaries on a large local estate and have always dealt directly with the farms manager. Last year, the property manager let some land/buildings adjacent to my apiary and there was some confusion over whether the apiary would be affected for a while. The property manager suggested that I pay a nominal £1 rent for the use of the land so he had a record of where my apiaries were. I would have been happy to have done this but, it occurred to me that, I was providing free pollination services and would have to bill them for this. I heard nothing more about it.

£1 is a less expensive option than the customary rent of one jar of honey per hive.

B+. · Jul 2, 2019

thorn said:
£1 is a less expensive option than the customary rent of one jar of honey per hive.

Yes it is but I sensed a little bit of "empire building" as I have always dealt directly with the Farms manager. He knew where my apiaries were (indeed we had discussed it at some length so that they coordinated with his cropping plan) so it wasn't really necessary to inform the other guy
The thing about apiary sites that some people just don't get is that they aren't usually a permanent feature. They move around (at least in an agricultural setting) so it made no sense for this other guy to know where my hives were if they moved the following year.