Flow Hive - more info

[dexter's shed]

Probably last the same as their chainsaws and strimmers, so no problem.

good point

 

[thorn]

We won't know whether the flow hive works until beekeepers have been using them for a while. But we do know that for it to work, the users will have to be beekeepers. I worry that some regard it a bit like a wine box. You can take your empty jar to it and fill it on demand.
It is no more than a new method of extraction. Those who buy a flow hive will have to give it the twenty minutes a week (and the rest) throughout the season leading up to extraction. They will have to check for varroa and disease, feed when necessary, make sure they have a laying queen and take swarm avoidance measures. All power to the experienced beekeepers posting on this forum who are prepared to suck it and see. Good for those who are pointing out the potential problems. And shame on those who condemn for the sake of condemning, and who resort to mockery and insults.
As Obee1 pointed out earlier, the beehaus was greeted in much the same way. Instead of considering whether it would work, they attacked it for its colours and cost, accusing those who bought one of having more money than sense, and driving beehaus owners away from this forum.
Let's reserve judgement till Einsteinagogo reports back on the success or otherwise of his purchase.

 

[dexter's shed]

Let's reserve judgement till Einsteinagogo reports back on the success or otherwise of his purchase.

think it'll be me reporting back first, I placed my order with them back in March

 

[Hivemaker.]

think it'll be me reporting back first, I placed my order with them back in March

Depends when yours is arriving... some may have them before from China.

Estimated between Wed. 12 Aug. and Mon. 17 Aug, just in time for the heather.

 

[Gilberdyke John]

We won't know whether the flow hive works until beekeepers have been using them for a while. But we do know that for it to work, the users will have to be beekeepers. I worry that some regard it a bit like a wine box. You can take your empty jar to it and fill it on demand.
It is no more than a new method of extraction. Those who buy a flow hive will have to give it the twenty minutes a week (and the rest) throughout the season leading up to extraction. They will have to check for varroa and disease, feed when necessary, make sure they have a laying queen and take swarm avoidance measures. All power to the experienced beekeepers posting on this forum who are prepared to suck it and see. Good for those who are pointing out the potential problems. And shame on those who condemn for the sake of condemning, and who resort to mockery and insults.
As Obee1 pointed out earlier, the beehaus was greeted in much the same way. Instead of considering whether it would work, they attacked it for its colours and cost, accusing those who bought one of having more money than sense, and driving beehaus owners away from this forum.
Let's reserve judgement till Einsteinagogo reports back on the success or otherwise of his purchase.

Was it Lord Denning who referred to the the thoughts of the man (beekeeper?) on the Clapham Omnibus? Some things fly in the face of reason. This may well be one of them…

 

[Tremyfro]

Depends when yours is arriving... some may have them before from China.

Estimated between Wed. 12 Aug. and Mon. 17 Aug, just in time for the heather.

Ah well...Heather honey...it may be best not to test on Heather honey which is thixotropic...or jellylike in consistency. It doesn't run...so not really a suitable test. I think they have tried the Flow Frames with similar honeys in Australia. From what I heard....it was possible but the frames had to opened and closed a number of times to break up the 'cling' of the honey.
We will all have to wait until the first UK honey is harvested next year....to actually watch it.

 

[pargyle]

think it'll be me reporting back first, I placed my order with them back in March

We'll look forward to that then:

"over here in the UK most of the old school bee forums are looking down on the flow hive too, I have admitted openly to ordering frames, and until next year comes, prefer to read their replies whilst smiling and thinking about the holes they are digging, my time will come, once the frames have been filled and are ready for "tapping" when I'll put a video together and post it on every forum that has looked down on the flow hive, with a smug grin on my face"

Dexters Shed ....

 

[Erichalfbee]

So do I.


I don't understand the smug grin bit though?
Would any unbelievers have smug grins if it all failed?
Surely not

 

[madasafish]

For the cost of a flow hive , I could hire a beekeeper to produce honey from my own hives.. the old fashioned way.

 

[For want of a better word]

Invent a better mousetrap and the world will beat a path to your door..


still seems to be a plague of mice about!

Yeghes da

 

[Hivemaker.]

Ah well...Heather honey...it may be best not to test on Heather honey which is thixotropic...or jellylike in consistency.

Thank you.

 

[Tremyfro]

Thank you.

You are welcome...however....the Flow Hive can be used for other honey crops...not every beekeeper takes their bees to the Heather....

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Ah well...Heather honey...it may be best not to test on Heather honey which is thixotropic...or jellylike in consistency.

really?

thixotropic (ˌθɪksəˈtrɒpɪk)
adj
1. (Chemistry) (of fluids and gels) having a viscosity that decreases when a stress is applied, as when stirred: thixotropic paints.
[C20: from Greek thixis the act of touching + -tropic]

simple solution - put your flo frame hive on a vibrating hive stand

We'll look forward to that then:

"when I'll put a video together and post it on every forum that has looked down on the flow hive, with a smug grin on my face"

Dexters Shed ....

Oh no! death by yootoob!! the ignominy of it

 

[Hivemaker.]

not every beekeeper takes their bees to the Heather....

We don't, it is everywhere around here, so no need to.

 

[BeeJayBee]

We'll look forward to that then:

"over here in the UK most of the old school bee forums are looking down on the flow hive too, I have admitted openly to ordering frames, and until next year comes, prefer to read their replies whilst smiling and thinking about the holes they are digging, my time will come, once the frames have been filled and are ready for "tapping" when I'll put a video together and post it on every forum that has looked down on the flow hive, with a smug grin on my face"

To be fair, I think those who haven't bought into the idea are more than a little bemused why anybody would spend so much money on a few special frames that look as if they might make honey extraction easier - and to spend that much without actually seeing or touching the thing they're buying.

I can understand the defensive position. - I'd be defensive too if I'd spent a lot of money on something I'd seen advertised on the internet that I wouldn't actually get to see or touch for almost a year. I can also safely bet that my 'a lot' or 'expensive' is much less money than some other people's 'expensive'!

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

Depends when yours is arriving... some may have them before from China.

Estimated between Wed. 12 Aug. and Mon. 17 Aug, just in time for the heather.

I get it Pete. V good. But you'll need a stronger #heatherpress

 

[For want of a better word]

I like to think of the old saying, everything comes to those who wait

Refund due from eBay.. no doubt !


Yeghes da​

 

[einsteinagogo]

Refund due from eBay.. no doubt !


Yeghes da​

Well at least from eBay/Paypal you can get a refund, under the Buyer Protection Scheme, Kickstarters/Indiegogo are donations - no refunds, no guarantees, they are gifts, or perks!

I've noticed the eBay flow frames have been updated, with Taotuo registered trade mark, and close-up pictures of the frames, and bees on a frame with some brace comb, and also the cheeky sods, linking to Flow website for images, videos and text etc

price has also increased, and this seller, has only 2 feedback!

 

[dexter's shed]

price has also increased,

but you can make them an offer

 

[einsteinagogo]

it surprises me why the Chinese have copied these in a very niche and limited market! the injection mould would have cost £1000s.

unless flow are manufacturing in China and these are out the backdoor!

and for such a high value item and gamble....often if an item breaks they just refund your money!

The Chinese must believe this is going to replace extraction around the globe.