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The most important issue is, are such selectively bred traits stable after open mating?

(I'm hopig you can answer that in one word to save me sitting through several videos)
 

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The most important issue is, are such selectively bred traits stable after open mating?

(I'm hopig you can answer that in one word to save me sitting through several videos)
Your question requires some additional information.
If you mean open mating at an isolated mating station (controlled mating), the answer would be: yes (subject to normal heritability).
If you mean open mating in an uncontrolled environment such as we have here in the UK, I would say: No.

The point was made repeatedly that controlled mating, either through isolated mating station or instrumental insemination, was essential to making progress in a breeding programme.

It's a pity you don't feel the videos are worth your time. There is LOTS of good stuff in them.
 
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Your question requires some additional information.
If you mean open mating at an isolated mating station (controlled mating), the answer would be: yes (subject to normal heritability).
If you mean open mating in an uncontrolled environment such as we have here in the UK, I would say: No.

The point was made repeatedly that controlled mating, either through isolated mating station or instrumental insemination, was essential to making progress in a breeding programme.

It's a pity you don't feel the videos are worth your time. There is LOTS of good stuff in them.
Hmm

My local bees open mate and have varroa resistance

I hear this from peple all over Oxfordshire, Hampshire, and scattered reports from further away

Every BIBBA member I have ever talked to uses local bees and says they don't need to treat

What varroa problem?
 

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My local bees open mate and have varroa resistance

I hear this from peple all over Oxfordshire, Hampshire, and scattered reports from further away

Every BIBBA member I have ever talked to uses local bees and says they don't need to treat

What varroa problem?
Of course they do.
 

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My local bees open mate and have varroa resistance

I hear this from peple all over Oxfordshire, Hampshire, and scattered reports from further away

Every BIBBA member I have ever talked to uses local bees and says they don't need to treat

What varroa problem?
I suggest you get right on the phone to the world wide media, US university’s or perhaps the bigger breeding programs around the world. Do be sure to come and tell us when the first million rolls in. Just as an aside do you have any data or independent research to back those statements up. If not already I’m sure you’ll have academics banging on your door toot sweet!
 

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I suggest you get right on the phone to the world wide media, US university’s or perhaps the bigger breeding programs around the world. Do be sure to come and tell us when the first million rolls in. Just as an aside do you have any data or independent research to back those statements up. If not already I’m sure you’ll have academics banging on your door toot sweet!
I have long noted an attitude, mainly in the Anglo-American countries, where ignorance is considered a virtue, and denial of specialist knowledge is considered de-rigueur. An alternate reality exists where science-for-the-under-twos prevails. This is the world we live in. Instead of picking up a book and learning the truth, people would rather delude themselves, and others, into believing falsehoods. I have done my best to counter this threat by citing sources that convey the truth, but - I suppose we get the world we deserve!
 

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I have long noted an attitude, mainly in the Anglo-American countries, where ignorance is considered a virtue, and denial of specialist knowledge is considered de-rigueur. An alternate reality exists where science-for-the-under-twos prevails. This is the world we live in. Instead of picking up a book and learning the truth, people would rather delude themselves, and others, into believing falsehoods. I have done my best to counter this threat by citing sources that convey the truth, but - I suppose we get the world we deserve!
Oh I just looked in on the BIBBA web site can’t see anything about this ground breaking discovery....maybe we are the first to hear this new development. Ian
 
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Hmm

My local bees open mate and have varroa resistance

I hear this from peple all over Oxfordshire, Hampshire, and scattered reports from further away

Every BIBBA member I have ever talked to uses local bees and says they don't need to treat

What varroa problem?
Wow what an exciting phenomena, is the 'resistant' trait fixed, how did you manage to achieve it ? Can't wait to read reports form the other BIBBA members who have your bees, this is truly exciting. Are you stepping up your breeding programme as I am certain that many would love to have some of your queens?
 

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Hmm

My local bees open mate and have varroa resistance

I hear this from peple all over Oxfordshire, Hampshire, and scattered reports from further away

Every BIBBA member I have ever talked to uses local bees and says they don't need to treat

What varroa problem?
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Hmm

My local bees open mate and have varroa resistance

I hear this from peple all over Oxfordshire, Hampshire, and scattered reports from further away

Every BIBBA member I have ever talked to uses local bees and says they don't need to treat

What varroa problem?
Of course they don't need treating for varroa... probably because most these mongrel colonies don't survive 1 winter or need to be culled for being so unmanageable.

Seriously, I am glad that BIBBA with its wild and mystical statements has stepped out of the shadows post Brexit, I have never giggled so much!!
 

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My local bees open mate and have varroa resistance
I'm not aiming to turn this into one of those argumentative threads, I'm purely curious, about what exactly you mean when you say your bees have 'varroa resistance'? Do you find no varroa at all in your hives? Or do you only ever find low numbers when you monitor, suggesting that your bees can withstand and prevent a more harmful infestation?
Edit: Adding to that, how do you monitor varroa numbers? Do you just use natural drop numbers, or do you do alcohol or sugar rolls, or some other method?
 
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The thing that gets me is ever since beekeeping and Internet forum met there’s been some closet genius claiming cures for varroa and varroa tolerant bees. I’m now trying to think of those that have come to fruition...............,,,Anyone help me! If varroa tolerance is to be bred into bees I’ll happily eat my hat if it’s not the likes of B+ (carnica groups) maybe buckfast breeders or some of the big US breeders/uni that are pouring big bucks into the work. It will not be the local association or BIBBA or 1 bloke his ferret and 6 hives down the road. I’ll happily of course wish all the above the best of luck inc the ferret. But if you lay out such claims please be prepared to back them up and if you can happy days for all. I would also suggest that if any hear such claims call them out ask for information, because what normally happens is beginners the less informed get led a merry dance. If they can produce anything but their own assertions good luck to them.
 

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Hmm

My local bees open mate and have varroa resistance

I hear this from peple all over Oxfordshire, Hampshire, and scattered reports from further away

Every BIBBA member I have ever talked to uses local bees and says they don't need to treat

What varroa problem?
The lengths that some people will go to to avoid their new obligations under the The Bee Diseases and Pests Control (England) (Amendment) Order 2021 to report the presence of varroa are incredible. Literally incredible
 

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