Bayer taking the p##£ or fake?

[Tom Bick]

Is it this the most stupid thing you have ever seen or is it fake? Came across it on the internet but think it’s so stupid it must be a fake.

 

[Anduril]

Is it this the most stupid thing you have ever seen or is it fake? Came across it on the internet but think it’s so stupid it must be a fake.

The Soil Association has written to retailers asking them to withdraw these products. If you go to their website they have a letter that you can use to write to any offending retailer.

 

[wessexmario]

It's a clever but insidious marketing ploy.

by putting a packet of bee friendly seeds on the insect poison, they're making the prospective buyer make the incorrect assumption that it's bee friendly...
It's not.

 

[Russel]

Yes it's true. We picked up Waitrose and Sainsburys on it 2013 and this was posted within the last 7 days and last year, so not much success getting them to withdraw offer? Well not until current stocks run out??

 

[madasafish]

see http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=32841&highlight=bayer

Already discussed

 

[Russel]

From June 2013 @ Sainsburys

 

[beeno]

Just the same as the floral strips promoted on the edge of agricultural land being sprayed IMHO, but on an personal basis - very cynical marketing IMHO. I can just see what the next question is going to be.

 

[For want of a better word]

Reminds me of the 60s tobacco advertising.....

Perhaps the sellers of these friendly toxins should be made to put a picture of a hive of dead and dying bees on the packaging?

Has this Bayer abomination been referred to the Advertising Standards Agency?

Yeghes da

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Has this Bayer abomination been referred to the Advertising Standards Agency?

Yeghes da

Why - they're doing nothing wrong - in fact they are being very responsible if some eejit is spraying bug killer willy nilly all over the place, then fair play to them for attempting some kind of restitution by promoting the planting of pollinator friendly plants to help the survivors

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Douple

 

[For want of a better word]

Why - they're doing nothing wrong - in fact they are being very responsible if some eejit is spraying bug killer willy nilly all over the place, then fair play to them for attempting some kind of restitution by promoting the planting of pollinator friendly plants to help the survivors

Fair enough ... it is only one litre
Then multiply that up a few hundreds of thousand times....
What possible harm to the environment can that do?



Yeghes da

 

[waverider]

The words 'social conciousness' spring to mind. Lame attempt by Bayer.

 

[jd101k2000]

My understanding is that there are far more insecticides applied to gardens than the whole of UK agriculture. If anyone can come up with some evidence, it would be interesting.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Is it this the most stupid thing you have ever seen or is it fake? Came across it on the internet but think it’s so stupid it must be a fake.

Tom, it's my photo taken at B & Q in Aberystwyth last Wednesday.
I put it on London Beeks Facebook page and it's on here somewhere too.

 

[Tom Bick]

Tom, it's my photo taken at B & Q in Aberystwyth last Wednesday.
I put it on London Beeks Facebook page and it's on here somewhere too.

Nice one Dani did not believe it at first think it should be in a hunting shop. It’s like selling a decoy and then the gun.

 

[charlievictorbravo]

Went to a lecture by Prof Dave Goulson at Plymouth Uni last night and he used a similar photo in his presentation.

It turns out that Neonics are very persistent in the soil and as farmers are not allowed to use them until December this year, there's enough already in the soil to be effective as a systemic insecticide for up to 5 years, depending on how often Neonics have been used in the past. If, say, a farmer has used neonic-dressed seed for 5 years, then there's probably enough chemical fixed in the soil to protect crops for another 5 years or so. The moratorium therefore needs to be extended for at least 6 years to ensure that any studies to measure the impact of the ban is based on less neonics being in the environment.

The interesting thing is that the chemical companies are in a Catch 22 situation - they don't want to admit that the chemicals are persistent and they cannot challenge the excellent reported crop outcomes last year (the first of the moratorium) as being the result of neonics still being in the soil. How will they explain the improved crop output? Watch this space.

CVB

 

[Erichalfbee]

Nice one Dani did not believe it at first think it should be in a hunting shop. It’s like selling a decoy and then the gun.

I put the question to B & Q on their Facebook page. They said it doesn't contain a banned neonic.

It contains Thiacloprid.......splitting hairs in my opinion. Somewhat insensitive to be selling a product designed to kill the very creatures you are encouraging with your packet of free bee seeds.

 

[For want of a better word]

Went to a lecture by Prof Dave Goulson at Plymouth Uni last night and he used a similar photo in his presentation.

It turns out that Neonics are very persistent in the soil and as farmers are not allowed to use them until December this year, there's enough already in the soil to be effective as a systemic insecticide for up to 5 years, depending on how often Neonics have been used in the past. If, say, a farmer has used neonic-dressed seed for 5 years, then there's probably enough chemical fixed in the soil to protect crops for another 5 years or so. The moratorium therefore needs to be extended for at least 6 years to ensure that any studies to measure the impact of the ban is based on less neonics being in the environment.

The interesting thing is that the chemical companies are in a Catch 22 situation - they don't want to admit that the chemicals are persistent and they cannot challenge the excellent reported crop outcomes last year (the first of the moratorium) as being the result of neonics still being in the soil. How will they explain the improved crop output? Watch this space.

CVB

Did he mention that the average American citizen is unfit to eat by WHO standards due to the amount of DDT persisting in their bodies?
or was that Professor Lowrie's favorite statement?

Yeghes da

 

[Tom Bick]

I put the question to B & Q on their Facebook page. They said it doesn't contain a banned neonic.

It contains Thiacloprid.......splitting hairs in my opinion. Somewhat insensitive to be selling a product designed to kill the very creatures you are encouraging with your packet of free --- seeds.

It's all about profit margins at the end if the day but then public awareness has to be improved. I may pop down to my local B & Q to see if it's on sale there tomorrow.