Anyone tried or have comments on this..........

[RichardBeeW]

It's Phillip - although he has been called far worse

Spect I will be too now

 

[pargyle]

It's Phillip - although he has been called far worse

Frequently !!!

 

[Erichalfbee]

Frequently !!!

How much worse than Philip can you get?

 

[pargyle]

Longhives were very Popular in Finland 50 years ago, but now no one has kept them for long time. They are the most unpractical hives to keep.

I feel like it's groundhog day Finnie ... we are right back to 2014. You are quite correct, in some ways Long hives are unpractical:

1. They tend to be very heavy so they are best suited to those who have a static apiary.
2. They mostly rely on a single size of frame which don't always fit common extractors
3. They are bee factories - they produce large colonies
4. They will never match a vertical hive in the same location for honey production
5. Adding conventional honey supers can be problematical

But ... they have some benefits:

1. They do not require the beekeeper to lift heavy boxes
2. Those of shorter stature can site the hive at a height where they can easilly lift the frames
3. Splitting and artificial swarms are simple and require no additional kit
4. They produce big colonies - very useful as donor hives
5. The bees seem to swarm less - probably as they have more lateral space
6. Can be easy to construct from a variety of materials (Zest Hive)
7. They do produce a surfeit of honey - just not as much as a vertical hive - enough for your own and your family's requirements.
8. You can have just one hive in the garden - splitting and re-combining as and when.
9. According to some people they seem to be less prone to Varroa infestation when highly insulated

If you fall into the category of people where these benefits are a requirement for your beekeeping then there is a lot to say for them. Don't be put off - perhaps not if you want 150Kg of honey from a hive and you live in Finland but ... for us lesser mortals they are of use.

 

[pargyle]

How much worse than Philip can you get?

Erasmus ? My great great grandfather was an Erasmus ...

 

[Erichalfbee]

Erasmus ? My great great grandfather was an Erasmus ...

My fathers name was Włodzimierz
His mates called him Bill

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

How much worse than Philip can you get?

Erasmus ? My great great grandfather was an Erasmus ...

One branch of the family has one or two names which turn up nearly every generation - we have quite a few Lot Lakes in the family tree and also in the Lake branch Nimrod crops up regularly.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

My fathers name was Włodzimierz
His mates called him Bill

My father had a friend/distant cousin who's full name was Selwyn Lewis Albert Mons Lewis

Or Slam as he was known in school
There was also a lad who's father nickname was Wil Pickles (he worked on the pickling tanks in the tinplate works) so they called him Cnec which is the Welsh for Fart

 

[pargyle]

My fathers name was Włodzimierz
His mates called him Bill

Rather flush with vowels for a Polish name wasn't it ? I thought there was an unwritten law that any name could only have one vowel otherwise it became pronouncable ....

 

[pargyle]

My grandfather was William Josiah Malburn, my father was just Malburn and my wife insisted on inflicting this on our first son as a middle name ... I think it will end there .. it skipped a generation in me as my mother refused ... I got lucky ! Imagine .. Malburn Erasmus ....

 

[Finman]

1. They do not require the beekeeper to lift heavy boxes
2. Those of shorter stature can site the hive at a height where they can easilly lift the frames
3. Splitting and artificial swarms are simple and require no additional kit
4. They produce big colonies - very useful as donor hives
5. The bees seem to swarm less - probably as they have more lateral space
6. Can be easy to construct from a variety of materials (Zest Hive)
7. They do produce a surfeit of honey - just not as much as a vertical hive - enough for your own and your family's requirements.
8. You can have just one hive in the garden - splitting and re-combining as and when.
9. According to some people they seem to be less prone to Varroa infestation when highly insulaten

Half of your benefits are not true.

Typical imagination of natural beekeepers.

If you want rape honey, you cannot move the hives.

If you do not want honey, what you do you do with big hives and swarm? Actually long hive is too small to moden bees.

It is easier to Make artificial swarm with poly langstroth hive than with long hive. Long hive cannot be half full and full at same time

In Finland supers were Allways used in longhives. You may move honey combs frame by frame from Superga if they are heavy.

Longhives do not save you from varroa.
There is no such hive.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Rather flush with vowels for a Polish name wasn't it ? I thought there was an unwritten law that any name could only have one vowel otherwise it became pronouncable ....

I remember a Polish sea Captain on a timber ship we boarded relating us a story over a 'cup of Tea' He'd realised his ENG1 medical certificate was overdue for renewal so had asked the agent to arrange a medical for him whilst they were in port discharging. The MCA doctor went through the tests, reflexes, blood pressure, reflexes all OK then came the Ishihari test for colour blindness - fine, then he indicated to the Sneller chart on the wall at the far end of the room and asked 'Can you read the bottom line Captain?' His reply?
'read it - I was in school with him!!'

 

[pargyle]

Half of your benefits are not true.

Typical imagination of natural beekeepers. Sorry - where did that come from ?

If you want rape honey, you cannot move the hives. - True but who wants rape honey ?

If you do not want honey, what you do you do with big hives and swarm? Recombine them ?

Actually long hive is too small to moden bees. - What 20+ frames in 14 x 12 ?

It is easier to Make artificial swarm with poly langstroth hive than with long hive. No it's not.

Long hive cannot be half full and full at same time - You just put a division board in and open another entrance,

In Finland supers were Allways used in longhives. You may move honey combs frame by frame from Superga if they are heavy. Well that's a benefit then ...

Longhives do not save you from varroa. Some say they help - not me - see Zest Hive.

There is no such hive.

Half of your comments are not true .. but I'll let people make up their own minds ...

 

[Erichalfbee]

Does anybody know what Finman is called
His name I mean.

 

[HughMann]

No they don't.
In the 18 months I have been a moderator I have banned one person for persistently trolling the form and given five people short holidays, one of those flounced off entirely after his membership was reinstated but not before I got a barrage of hate mail. His wingman lurked for a while then disappeared and I'm sure the other two will be back this month. Angie has removed two people's accounts at their request and I don't think JBM has actioned anybody.
Nobody would interfere with your blog and why on earth should you be banned?
A lot of people would be interested.

Someone is winding me up then

 

[HughMann]

There are some in the UK that keep their bees like this - Heidi Hermann for one ..but unless you can watch constantly the hives during the swarm season you are likely to miss some .. I think the OP has accepted that this will be the case ... can't say that it's a way I would proceed but each to their own.

She is a bit of a visionary - Why 'natural' beekeeping could save our honey-making friends

I think observation is going to be key and as well as fitting various sensors (already discussed on the forum), remote cameras are very inexpensive now.
30.08min - great old vid

 

[pargyle]

Does anybody know what Finman is called
His name I mean.

Bubo Funman ...

In another forum he's called Banned Finman ...

 

[happyculteur]

I think observation is going to be key .

And get going quickly . Too much reading is bad for the eyes
Remember beekeeping is an art more than a science.

 

[seillean mil]

Someone is winding me up then

I've seen "BANNED" added to the label of at least four members since I started looking at this forum four months ago;
I've also seen threads disappear and postings deleted.
I have seen one instance of fairly bad language, but nothing that should offend "robust" individuals like ourselves.
It seems that contributors with unconventional views or a strong preference for a particular type of bee are likely to be drawn into serious conflict with others and ill-tempered spats can follow,
Therefore I think you are right to be concerned about your integrity of access to any blog you may start here.
I'm sure that those levels of moderation are intended to protect individuals from mindless bullying, but plenty of comments intended to inflame the temperament of others still get through.

 

[Boston Bees]

I have seen one instance of fairly bad language, but nothing that should offend "robust" individuals like ourselves.
It seems that contributors with unconventional views or a strong preference for a particular type of bee are likely to be drawn into serious conflict with others and ill-tempered spats can follow,
Therefore I think you are right to be concerned about your integrity of access to any blog you may start here.

Have you ever seen a blog (a genuine blog, accessed via the "Blogs" button at the top) removed from this site?