AFB again

[mazzamazda]

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[mazzamazda]

Just a bit of feedback for Finman really. Tylosine works! Thank you! Its the first colony I have managed to save from AFB. I treated for 3 weeks, let them make wild comb which I later destroyed, they are now on proper frames and on about 5 frames. Bees saved!

 

[beeno]

Vita?? manufacture the lateral flow test kits and UK beekeepers who would HAVE to inform their local bee inspector... under UK law AFB and EFB are notifiable diseases. Colonies that test Positive ( FOR FREE) are destroyed and an exclusion zone and a stand still notice are imposed.
Nos da

Small correction there. Under UK law if colony is strong with small EFB infection and early in the season shook swarm is permissible or OTC treatment.

 

[BeeJayBee]

Small correction there. Under UK law if colony is strong with small EFB infection and early in the season shook swarm is permissible or OTC treatment.

The standstill order still applies, until it's been lifted by SBI.

 

[For want of a better word]

My concern is illegal imports of honey by holidaymakers and others bringing infected honey from places like Spain and Portugal and around the Mediterranean sea that have high infestation of AFB... possibly due to the high numbers of feral infected colonies?

Yeghes da

 

[Gilberdyke John]

My concern is illegal imports of honey by holidaymakers and others bringing infected honey from places like Spain and Portugal and around the Mediterranean sea that have high infestation of AFB... possibly due to the high numbers of feral infected colonies?

Yeghes da

Not just illegal imports. The outbreaks I've been aware of seem to occur in the vicinity of imported honey packing stations .

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

kill queen, shook swarm to new frames and treat?

How does the colony continue? Bought Q?

I've been destroying whole hives for years, I dont have a problem destroying a few, in 2015 I stopped counting at 30 hives, I possibly burnt around 50 from various apiaries. Now I'm looking at other options.

Moving them to the UK? "Number Of Hives: 175 on their way to the UK if I can get a health certificate!"

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

Combined

 

[mazzamazda]

How does the colony continue? Bought Q?

I have spare queens.


Moving them to the UK? "Number Of Hives: 175 on their way to the UK if I can get a health certificate!"

Yes why not? My hives are disease free. The problem with the health cert isnt disease its the bureaucrats that are making things difficult.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

by most of your posts on here it seems that they are riddled with disease, whether you douse them in chemicals or not!

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

Yes why not? My hives are disease free. The problem with the health cert isnt disease its the bureaucrats that are making things difficult.

No it isn't.

 

[mbc]

by most of your posts on here it seems that they are riddled with disease, whether you douse them in chemicals or not!

Anybody who's been through the frustration of afb through no fault of their own wouldn't be so callous when seeing big frames of otherwise healthy brood with just one cell of afb on it, it can be bloody heartbreaking.
I would say the op is proactive in trying to get on top of his problem, no small task if the desease is endemic and widespread in his area of operation, holier than though pronouncements do nothing to help the situation.

 

[eddyh]

Anybody who's been through the frustration of afb through no fault of their own wouldn't be so callous when seeing big frames of otherwise healthy brood with just one cell of afb on it, it can be bloody heartbreaking.
I would say the op is proactive in trying to get on top of his problem, no small task if the desease is endemic and widespread in his area of operation, holier than though pronouncements do nothing to help the situation.

Spot on mbc,i had AFB a couple of years ago through no fault of my own and had to destroy a few hives.Totally heart breaking pouring petrol into your hives and killing your bee's.Luckily enough i hade some good people around me for advice and support and am now hopefully over it.The last thing you need is finger poking by self the righteous.Good luck mazzamazda,stick with it and you will evntually break the cycle as i have.

 

[mazzamazda]

by most of your posts on here it seems that they are riddled with disease, whether you douse them in chemicals or not!

Hardly, a case or two of afb, efb a year, with up to 1000 hives, dealt with, destroyed or treated. Are you a better beekeeper because you havent had it or probably seen it, I doubt it!

 

[mazzamazda]

No it isn't.

How do you know???????????????????????

 

[TryingToLetThemBee]

How do you know???????????????????????

The point is that your problem is not bureaucracy, it is that you want to import a large number of hives from an area where AFB is endemic. Simply, and sorry, but I don't think you should be allowed to. The whole idea that there is some sort of right to keep stirring the world like this and that "the bureaucrats" are simply a nuisance is why we have so many messes in my view.

 

[mazzamazda]

Anybody who's been through the frustration of afb through no fault of their own wouldn't be so callous when seeing big frames of otherwise healthy brood with just one cell of afb on it, it can be bloody heartbreaking.
I would say the op is proactive in trying to get on top of his problem, no small task if the desease is endemic and widespread in his area of operation, holier than though pronouncements do nothing to help the situation.

Thank you! Yes it is heart stopping knowing you have to kill a colony, or lately treat it, panic with passing it on, stress with have I missed a hive before which also has it, work in checking every cell in every hive. I'm very confident my bees would pass a health check but true there is nothing to say a problem wont come back, when it does I'll deal with that too!

 

[mazzamazda]

Spot on mbc,i had AFB a couple of years ago through no fault of my own and had to destroy a few hives.Totally heart breaking pouring petrol into your hives and killing your bee's.Luckily enough i hade some good people around me for advice and support and am now hopefully over it.The last thing you need is finger poking by self the righteous.Good luck mazzamazda,stick with it and you will evntually break the cycle as i have.

Well done! It is a very difficult cycle to break, a one I dont think in one area I can, my other bees dont do half as well near where I live so thats one of the many reasons I'm moving, many thanks though and I'm sure you are a MUCH better beekeeper for going through it.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

The point is that your problem is not bureaucracy, it is that you want to import a large number of hives from an area where AFB is endemic. Simply, and sorry, but I don't think you should be allowed to. The whole idea that there is some sort of right to keep stirring the world like this and that "the bureaucrats" are simply a nuisance is why we have so many messes in my view.

But it is rather amusing how some change their tune to be sanctimonious when at other times the excuse of preventing disease spread is fine to fuel the crusade against banning the import of 'foreign' bees.

 

[mazzamazda]

The point is that your problem is not bureaucracy, it is that you want to import a large number of hives from an area where AFB is endemic. Simply, and sorry, but I don't think you should be allowed to. The whole idea that there is some sort of right to keep stirring the world like this and that "the bureaucrats" are simply a nuisance is why we have so many messes in my view.

Sorry you know NOTHING about it!

I do agree I wouldn't want foreign bees brought in but thats the law, I'm abiding by it, so. Afb endemic country has got nothing to do with it, my bees are healthy until they get infected by someone elses bees, it is only in one area.

"The bureaucrats" havent given me the certificate is because they dont know what to do, to quote the HOLY EU official, he said to my wife "We have never been asked for a certificate, most people just take them"! So please get your facts right!