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Packed up a box of marmalade, blackcurrant jam and honey for the food bank.

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I’m doing the same with the Christmas wrapped jars that didn’t sell at the recent Xmas Fayre in the village. Better than saving them until next year.
 
Just spent a couple of frustrating days waiting for buckets of honey to warm before jarring.
I had 10 buckets to turn from rocks into a clear honey to enable me to jar them. My honey warmer takes 3-4 buckets depending on shape and each load took at least 24 hours to decrystalise to enable jarring so I could only jar about 240 jars in a session which meant the equipment had to stay in my utility room for 3 days and SWMBO was a bit miffed.
So..... I embarked an a new warmer of the same size which will enable me to double my output and make seting up the jarring machine more worth while.
This one is built into the bench my old warmer sits on and will be heated by a 120w greenhouse heater and the air will be circulated with a 120mm computer fan and controlled with a XH W3001 thermostat that I've used on many projects over the years. Insulation is 50mm PIR.
I did the wiring yesterday evening but when I went to switch on it was all dead so I gave up and had my dinner. Just about to nip down the shed and see whats wrong with it.
 
Just spent a couple of frustrating days waiting for buckets of honey to warm before jarring.
I had 10 buckets to turn from rocks into a clear honey to enable me to jar them. My honey warmer takes 3-4 buckets depending on shape and each load took at least 24 hours to decrystalise to enable jarring so I could only jar about 240 jars in a session which meant the equipment had to stay in my utility room for 3 days and SWMBO was a bit miffed.
So..... I embarked an a new warmer of the same size which will enable me to double my output and make seting up the jarring machine more worth while.
This one is built into the bench my old warmer sits on and will be heated by a 120w greenhouse heater and the air will be circulated with a 120mm computer fan and controlled with a XH W3001 thermostat that I've used on many projects over the years. Insulation is 50mm PIR.
I did the wiring yesterday evening but when I went to switch on it was all dead so I gave up and had my dinner. Just about to nip down the shed and see whats wrong with it.
Do you find the fan helps? I use an old fridge which holds 3 buckets easily (i could probably fit 4) with 2x40w tube heaters but no fan, controlled with a plug in Inkbird heater/cooler which is also internet linked so eg once I think it's had long enough I can turn it down remotely to 30C - still warm enough to flow easily. Great for liquefying when you are away to be ready on return.
I often wonder if adding a fan would help. It's quite slow to warm up so a 3rd 40w heater might help too.
 
Do you find the fan helps? I use an old fridge which holds 3 buckets easily (i could probably fit 4) with 2x40w tube heaters but no fan, controlled with a plug in Inkbird heater/cooler which is also internet linked so eg once I think it's had long enough I can turn it down remotely to 30C - still warm enough to flow easily. Great for liquefying when you are away to be ready on return.
I often wonder if adding a fan would help. It's quite slow to warm up so a 3rd 40w heater might help too.
I assume it helps to dissipate the heat from one side of the bucket. My box is horizontal with the 2' heater on the side so one side of the buckets is likely to get very hot and the otherside only gets heat via natural convection in the box. Also there is likely to be hot and cold spots so the thermostat might not actually read the correct temperature of the box so a fan helps to even every thing up.
I tend to put a bucket of honey in for 24hrs set at 40c and can normally put it through my jarring machine in 10mins. at that temperature.
I used the 120w heaters because they were the longest I could fit in the box but I did once use a little 400w fan heater in one of my experiments for warming supers in a double stack. It worked too efficiently as the first 2 supers in the stack melted leaving a pile of wax and honey in the bottom of the stack!
If I had room for a large bucket warmer I'd be tempted to use it again.
 
Likely I'm getting a bit previous, but at present I'm making a couple of swarm collection boxes, mostly from 5.5mm ply, so I don't have the usual mad rush to find a suitable cardboard box should I need one next year. I was only going to make one, but I looked at the pile of wood I'd pulled together in the workshop and decided there was enough to make two and it wasn't really that much more time-consuming, so why not?

The design is loosely based on David Cushman's, somewhat simplified as I feel his is really quite over-engineered. If a cardboard box does the job, anything significantly more complex is clearly over the top :D And of course I want to keep the weight down. They will be sufficient to double up as a five-frame nuc in an emergency though.

The major problem is that PU glue goes a bit treacly once temperatures get down to around 5°C. I seem to recall one poster here making a "glue warming plate" to help. I just keep the container inside my jacket when it isn't in use :D

James
 
Likely I'm getting a bit previous, but at present I'm making a couple of swarm collection boxes, mostly from 5.5mm ply, so I don't have the usual mad rush to find a suitable cardboard box should I need one next year. I was only going to make one, but I looked at the pile of wood I'd pulled together in the workshop and decided there was enough to make two and it wasn't really that much more time-consuming, so why not?

The design is loosely based on David Cushman's, somewhat simplified as I feel his is really quite over-engineered. If a cardboard box does the job, anything significantly more complex is clearly over the top :D And of course I want to keep the weight down. They will be sufficient to double up as a five-frame nuc in an emergency though.

The major problem is that PU glue goes a bit treacly once temperatures get down to around 5°C. I seem to recall one poster here making a "glue warming plate" to help. I just keep the container inside my jacket when it isn't in use :D

James
Hi James, it was me that made the glue heater out of a 12v 15w silicon mat.
I also have made lots of bait hives from 10mm cedar . I don’t worry about the shape, just try to get them to be about 40 litres.
Some of my best ones are 480x150x500 which hang well from a wall or tree.
 
Hi James, it was me that made the glue heater out of a 12v 15w silicon mat.
I also have made lots of bait hives from 10mm cedar . I don’t worry about the shape, just try to get them to be about 40 litres.
Some of my best ones are 480x150x500 which hang well from a wall or tree.

I've run out of boxes to make bait hives now -- I've been using standard national boxes that are repairable but still not really that great that I'd want to use them for a permanent hive and some (probably home-made) I've been given over the years that aren't actually quite the right dimensions. I paint them all the same colour so I don't confuse them with my others.

James
 
Likely I'm getting a bit previous, but at present I'm making a couple of swarm collection boxes, mostly from 5.5mm ply, so I don't have the usual mad rush to find a suitable cardboard box should I need one next year. I was only going to make one, but I looked at the pile of wood I'd pulled together in the workshop and decided there was enough to make two and it wasn't really that much more time-consuming, so why not?

The design is loosely based on David Cushman's, somewhat simplified as I feel his is really quite over-engineered. If a cardboard box does the job, anything significantly more complex is clearly over the top :D And of course I want to keep the weight down. They will be sufficient to double up as a five-frame nuc in an emergency though.

The major problem is that PU glue goes a bit treacly once temperatures get down to around 5°C. I seem to recall one poster here making a "glue warming plate" to help. I just keep the container inside my jacket when it isn't in use :D

James
Are these boxes sort of like the old tea chests ? As for the glue, stick mine in a jug of warm water or wrapped in a wheat bag, whatever it takes. Working in a cold workshop is no fun. I have an 80yrs old Romesse stove to keep the chill off.
 
Are these boxes sort of like the old tea chests ? As for the glue, stick mine in a jug of warm water or wrapped in a wheat bag, whatever it takes. Working in a cold workshop is no fun. I have an 80yrs old Romesse stove to keep the chill off.

In a miniature form, yes, I guess they are similar to tea chests. Without the foil lining :)

I am somewhat reluctant to heat the workshop because of the condensation issues it causes. Other than heating it to the same temperature all the time (which I know some people do, particularly when they're earning their living from it) I've not found a compromise with which I feel comfortable.

As a desk-jockey of more than three decades standing, I feel I'm adapting remarkably well to being in an unheated workshop all day. At work the heating controls are basically restricted to "roller shutter open" and "roller shutter closed". Slinging 35kg sheets of 8x4 plywood around does the rest :D

James
 
In a miniature form, yes, I guess they are similar to tea chests. Without the foil lining :)

I am somewhat reluctant to heat the workshop because of the condensation issues it causes. Other than heating it to the same temperature all the time (which I know some people do, particularly when they're earning their living from it) I've not found a compromise with which I feel comfortable.

As a desk-jockey of more than three decades standing, I feel I'm adapting remarkably well to being in an unheated workshop all day. At work the heating controls are basically restricted to "roller shutter open" and "roller shutter closed". Slinging 35kg sheets of 8x4 plywood around does the rest :D

James
I remember walking the west highland way one February, I was carrying so much warm kit that the effort kept me warm and I rarely needed it!
 
In a miniature form, yes, I guess they are similar to tea chests. Without the foil lining :)

I am somewhat reluctant to heat the workshop because of the condensation issues it causes. Other than heating it to the same temperature all the time (which I know some people do, particularly when they're earning their living from it) I've not found a compromise with which I feel comfortable.

As a desk-jockey of more than three decades standing, I feel I'm adapting remarkably well to being in an unheated workshop all day. At work the heating controls are basically restricted to "roller shutter open" and "roller shutter closed". Slinging 35kg sheets of 8x4 plywood around does the rest :D

James
So you started at the top warm and comfortable and have been slowly working your way down ever since :} I am presuming the condensation would be via a gas heater, My stove removes the moisture in my experience. I stand wood to be worked in proximity so as to warm which assists in gluing. I only use PU when really necessary. My very first official job was in an old co op funeral parlour complex. We had stables, coach parking inside a covered courtyard, a crypt, chapel of rest complete with organ and a coffin workshop over the courtyard parking with an adjoining office . We had hanging bars over the wood stoves for drying the coffin coatings, the stoves also had stands for the glue pots to warm on. If that building was here now it would be preserved and probably listed. It was a surprisingly light and friendly place to work. Coffin boards of English Elm were a standard produced by sawmills for the purpose of. I am currently sat at a table made of the same, homemade ? of course. Those t chests used metal corners for strength.
 
Serendipitously (if that wasn't a word, it is now), whilst I was tidying up last Friday to prevent various bits and pieces becoming a low-flying danger to life and limb, I realised at one point that I was holding the very offcut of EPDM that I intended to use for covering the last three hive roofs I made and haven't been able to find for months. Today therefore I have fitted it to the roofs and finally got them out of the workshop which is once again developing a bit of a backlog thanks to projects stalling because of the weather.

I've also ordered a couple of offcuts of car wrap costing a whole two of your Earth pounds each (plusyervat) to cover the outside of my recently-constructed nuc boxes. For that sort of money, it beats painting them...

James
 
I had to look that at. I never knew such things existed......they come in different colours, opening up a whole new world :cool:

You can even get them in chrome and carbon-fibre finishes :D

I absolutely can't claim credit for the idea though. It was posted here a couple of weeks back -- a long hive made from PIR and then covered in car wrap with a camouflage pattern. I was aware that car wraps existed, but the idea of using it to cover a hive had never occurred to me and the material isn't cheap, hence the use of offcuts. Another possibility that came up when I was researching it was sign-writing vinyl.

James
 

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