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I (my wife was away 😂) neglected to inspect a hive for 10 days recently. We checked it 3 days ago and no sign of the queen or eggs but 3 unsealed QC’s. checked it again today and lots of QC’s on the frames that had small larvae. Possible supersedure but probably swarmed. Kept 2 QC’s and will double check in couple of days that they haven’t made any more and reduce to one. Is there any issue in this situation with making them hopelessly queenless and introducing a new queen rather than waiting for a new queen to emerge and mate?
 
Is there any issue in this situation with making them hopelessly queenless and introducing a new queen rather than waiting for a new queen to emerge and mate?
only the possibility (not remote) that they just kill the introduced queen
 
I (my wife was away 😂) neglected to inspect a hive for 10 days recently. We checked it 3 days ago and no sign of the queen or eggs but 3 unsealed QC’s. checked it again today and lots of QC’s on the frames that had small larvae. Possible supersedure but probably swarmed. Kept 2 QC’s and will double check in couple of days that they haven’t made any more and reduce to one. Is there any issue in this situation with making them hopelessly queenless and introducing a new queen rather than waiting for a new queen to emerge and mate?

I'm not sure I follow this... No queen or eggs and three unsealed queen cells, and then three days later you have "many" queen cells with small larvae?

I think it's unlikely that you'd have QCs in the second case unless they were already there three days earlier. If there were no eggs at the first inspection that suggests that the new QCs were emergency ones made using very young larvae.

If the queen had gone by the time of the first inspection, why was there no sealed QC?

I can't help feeling that your interpretation of what you were seeing was wrong or that there's something more complex going on. I've got to admit that I'm absolutely knackered this evening so may be a bit hard of thinking, but if someone can describe a sequence of events that is consistent with these observations, please do.

James
 
Took my mentee to help catch a cast swarm from a large colony living in a shed at my out apiary. Owner wants them removed at some point although I think she quite enjoys their antics.
Fairly simple collection as low down on a bush & went into the nuc easy as you like.
Delivered the swarm to one of the local newbies in the evening and helped her install it in the hive. Reasonable size for what we think is the second cast swarm. Interestingly it had quite a few drones with it. I’ve not seen that before.
 

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Inspected 15 of mine today I would say there's a trickle of honey coming in nothing more. The nuc splits i made are doing really well and 3 out of 6 of my virgins are now laying. Took 5 supers of honey off,not much of it was capped (maybe 20 %) but it all passed the shake test so should be ok. Bees were very well behaved considering were in the June gap here.
1 colony I opened up had 15 cells with virgins waiting to hatch and no young brood so released a few virgins and destroyed the rest,then i noticed a few bees buzzing around under the OMF had a peep and saw a big swarm under there from the colony above, I think they have been there a good few days as they were very pleased to march into the nuc I offered them (saw my clipped queen go in too). I am totally out of kit now so to get the nuc for the swarm I re-combined a split where there was no new Q laying but probably had a virgin in there, what will happen if I unite a Q+ nuc to a colony with a virgin?
 
Inspected my home colonies today. I think they're trying to wind me up. If so they're quite possibly succeeding :D

The colony that is on wild comb in a double brood has finally moved up into the box of frames I put on top. But only to use it for storing honey. I've put a QX underneath and I'll have to work out how to extract it in the Autumn.

I'd not put a couple of frames back into a box I collected a swarm in because I couldn't do it without risking injuring/killing bees, and obviously they'd started building comb off the (temporary, because at the time I'd run out) crown board rather than the frames. That all collapsed into the bottom of the hive when I took the crown board off causing who knows what damage. Entirely my fault and I'm really, really quite pissed off at myself about that one. I'd left the frames under the roof and just completely forgot about them. I should have brought them into the house or something so I'd at least have seen them and remembered to go back and put them in.

A couple of colonies (swarms from a few weeks back) look to be hopelessly queenless for reasons that aren't at all clear to me. Mating failures perhaps? They're bringing in nectar and pollen and building comb but there's no sign of a laying queen when there really ought to be by now.

Another colony seems to have queen cells every time I look in it. It's teeming with bees, but no sign of any eggs and hasn't (to my knowledge) swarmed recently, but there were six sealed QCs across three frames. One was even built on the face of the comb over the top of another. I knocked them down to one per frame and donated two of them to the two colonies that appear to be without a queen. They can sort themselves out from there, or I will.

The last one I inspected was a swarm that arrived on 14th May. I first inspected them on 24th May. I felt ten days was enough time for them to settle down. I saw the queen and marked her, saw eggs present and left them to it without checking every frame. Today there is sealed brood, no eggs and half a dozen sealed queen cells. Two possible explanations occur to me. The first is that they didn't like me marking her and killed her off, raising EQCs from larvae they already head, but my favoured one (because some of the QCs are hanging off the bottom of the comb outside the main brood area) is that they swarmed again on 24th and were in fact the swarm that I caught that evening. If that happened on day ten then they're due to emerge tomorrow so I guess I'd better go out there and do something about it sharpish (I left them at the time because I didn't know what the dates were). Sadly, if that's correct then I may well have just dumped a load of comb and nectar on the queen's head, because that swarm was the one with the missing frames. I might move one of the frames with QCs into a dummied-down brood box (I have no nucs left) and donate some house bees from another colony. Why they'd have been swarming again though I have no idea.

Another I looked at and just couldn't work out what was going on, but my notes are a bit stream-of-consciousness and I need to go back through them to try to rationalise what I was actually looking at.

James
 
Checked on my out apiary, the A/S I decide to carry out some 2 weeks ago is doing well. The original queen is well up to speed and has now 9.5 of E/U/S laid up the QL part appears to have a new queen somewhere . All quiet and content , the QC I left which at the time was a 6/7d open cell was still sealed but the cap/tip was opaque I did pry it off to see it was empty. I hate it when they put the tip back on.

My CBPV colony is doomed the queen is still present but the bees have dwindled to not many.

My diy longhive made out of insulation board has a new family, a swarm has arrived within the last 2 -3 days and usurped/killed off all the remaining DLQ colony and the DLQ, The old colony were dead outside the entrance/UFE and inside they were wrestling with the dead DLQ.
The swarm queen already has laid up some eggs.
 
Pinched a failing queen and popped in a frame from a good colony. Demarees are out of control. Sometimes I don’t know why I do this. Apiary looks like a shanty town

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You love it really😂 nice variety of colours going on 👌
 
It’s a shanty town!
Mind you that cold beer afterwards never hit the sides
It can’t be a shanty it’s to organised , I’m having cider that hits the sides at 7%.
You’ll have to have another one or two and see if that works.
 
Pinched a failing queen and popped in a frame from a good colony. Demarees are out of control. Sometimes I don’t know why I do this. Apiary looks like a shanty town

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I'm glad it's not just me 😂 I'm now in trouble with my hubby after promising I wouldn't collect any more swarms, then bringing a box of bees home when I only popped out to tesco (who can resist when they get that call?). Having completely run out of floors, roofs and stands I'm now "double deckering" over a snelgrove board (knew they'd come in handy). At least it's not so obvious how many there are in the garden now but I need to start planning some unites once I know they're all healthy 😃
 
I'm glad it's not just me 😂 I'm now in trouble with my hubby after promising I wouldn't collect any more swarms, then bringing a box of bees home when I only popped out to tesco (who can resist when they get that call?). Having completely run out of floors, roofs and stands I'm now "double deckering" over a snelgrove board (knew they'd come in handy). At least it's not so obvious how many there are in the garden now but I need to start planning some unites once I know they're all healthy 😃

Tesco value bees?

James
 

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