Varroa problem

[Outlander]

My original advice still stands

- but maybe I should amend to suggest treating with OA 21 days after the first hard frost.....

tbh Finland does have a slightly different climate from the UK so maybe different advice applies?

Finny you do give good advice most of the time but I do think you forget the we are a little further south and not so cold. I also think the colder it gets the worse you English gets

Oh and Apistan hope for the best and OA in December is what I would do.

 

[mbc]

Finny you do give good advice most of the time but I do think you forget the we are a little further south and not so could. I also think the colder it gets the worse you English gets

Pot and kettle springs to mind

 

[Finman]

Pot and kettle springs to mind

hehejejeje

Problems are yours. Not mine.
You have allways something odd going on in south.

what is pot then...strange, really strange
https://www.google.fi/search?hl=fi&...urce=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=FtOaUOuYKfLc4QTxhYCwDQ

.

 

[Outlander]

But they are typos and I do not profess to being an english teacher

 

[richardbees]

Finman

in Britain there is a quite narrow gap when hives have not probably brood

Exactly! and that gap possibly starts 21 days after the Q stopped laying prompted by the onset of Winter i.e. the first hard frost.

I can't think of any other way of deciding when to treat with OA - and I don't like the idea of doing it more than once.

An earlier poster mentioned Bayvarol - I thought that was currently banned?

 

[Outlander]

Finman

in Britain there is a quite narrow gap when hives have not probably brood

Exactly! and that gap possibly starts 21 days after the Q stopped laying prompted by the onset of Winter i.e. the first hard frost.

I can't think of any other way of deciding when to treat with OA - and I don't like the idea of doing it more than once.

An earlier poster mentioned Bayvarol - I thought that was currently banned?

I believe that you can get it on prescription from vet unless I’m mistaken which would not be a first.

 

[Finman]

Finny you do give good advice most of the time but I do think you forget the we are a little further south
do.

GOOD heavens!!! How can I forget that!

And you should remember that it is 20 miles to Europe. You need not to be 10 years after European beekeeping.

 

[Finman]

Finman

in Britain there is a quite narrow gap when hives have not probably brood

Exactly! and that gap possibly starts 21 days after the Q stopped laying prompted by the onset of Winter i.e. the first hard frost. ?

I believe 3 hive owners

( you cannot win them in debate)

mercy...

 

[Stiffy]

Bayvourol can be bought online, even Amazon sells it. It's use is not so good anymore due to mite resistance. If you need something to cope with resistant mites at this time year, Apivar is your best bet but is only on prescription. If you really want it try Google
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[richardbees]

outlander, stiffy
I didn't mean you couldn't buy it but that it was banned for use because V had developed resistance to it.....so if it's not used for e.g. 10 years the resistance may have gone and BayV can be used again. Obviously my knowledge of the efficacy of Vet. drugs is very sketchy!

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I believe 3 hive owners

Three eh - a slight improvement Finman - does that mean the pogrom against two hive owners is over? when will it be four hive owners?

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

Three eh - a slight improvement Finman - does that mean the pogrom against two hive owners is over? when will it be four hive owners?

Careful, Jenkinsbrynmair.

With 6 hives, it won't be long before you're in the firing lines.

Dusty

 

[Luminos]

Three eh - a slight improvement Finman - does that mean the pogrom against two hive owners is over? when will it be four hive owners?

 

[Pete Nicholson]

Right Guys - Time to end this thread, and thank you (most) for the constructive advice.
Apistan on today and colonies look quite healthy so will continue monitoring and treating accordingly even if is just icing sugar till the OA later.
Outlander - assume you were telling me off?!?! but can I have some of what you were on at the time or does it leave you with a sore head?
regards all and thanks again.
P.

 

[Ely]

But they are typos and I do not profess to being an english teacher

I bet Finmans English is a lot better than your Finnish!

 

[itma]

...
Apistan on today and colonies look quite healthy so will continue monitoring and treating accordingly even if is just icing sugar till the OA later.
...

Pete, I'm one of those who believes that icing sugar can be of some slight help (against what is usually the minority of mites that are actually on bees, rather than in sealed brood).

However, if you are intending to treat with Oxalic at Christmas anyway, then the extra benefit of the dusting will be overwhelmed by the disruption from opening up to dust.
Don't bother with the dusting!
Keep them closed down.

 

[Suzi Q]

Would it be necessary to treat with oxalic if there was a good drop from Apistan?

 

[itma]

Would it be necessary to treat with oxalic if there was a good drop from Apistan?

Its not about the drop.
Its about those remaining. And you can't judge that from a drop during treatment.

 

[Outlander]

I bet Finmans English is a lot better than your Finnish!

But why would I want to speak Finnish.

 

[Suzi Q]

Its not about the drop.
Its about those remaining. And you can't judge that from a drop during treatment.

Yes, get your point, a better indication would be to do a count after the treatment is finished, and decide then.