Time to change our tune?

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I try not to eat cat very often - they're a bit bony and smell of fish - and their nuts are a bit too chewy for me

 

[jarmo henttu]

I try not to eat cat very often - they're a bit bony and smell of fish - and their nuts are a bit too chewy for me

Do the hairs harm you? And the aroma of piss?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Do the hairs harm you? And the aroma of piss?

you're thinking of pensioners I think

 

[jarmo henttu]

you're thinking of pensioners I think

Pensioner cats?

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Hay allergia is not a epidemia thing.

I think that each people must take care themselves, whis things cause allergy to them. The are so much all kind of food stuffs which make allergy: cats, birds, docs, carrots, nuts, fish, eggs, whisky, flowers. Towars old age allergies become weaker.

It's not just allergies that become weaker.

 

[madasafish]

you're thinking of pensioners I

As an OAP of several years, I resent the implication that my sanitary pants leak

 

[jarmo henttu]

As an OAP of several years, I resent the implication that my sanitary pants leak

Go to toalet before your pants leak.

 

[Dekzion]

Or maybe some bees do collect it before it gets blown off the grass?
Interesting!

Last year I was sat fascinated watching a small bumble bee gathering pollen from those grass stems that look like little trees.

 

[Dekzion]

Hay fever is a collective term for an allergic reaction to pollen - sadly, it is not confined to pollen from grasses.. My hay fever starts with the early tree blossom - Horse chestnut trees are the worst and it follows on with other types of flora throughout the spring and summer. I've suffered since I was about 15 and it really is debilitating - at the worst times the symptoms are more like asthma, my eyes are irritated, I sneeze prolifically and my nose runs constantly, I'm lethargic - pure misery. I could never get along with Piriton - it just puts me to sleep - and I live with a daily dose of Loratadine during the hay fever season (in my case basically most of spring and summer). On its own it provides some relief but it's not a complete cure. However, since I've been eating my own honey, alongside the tablets, I've found the symptoms are noticeably reduced. I've experimented - leaving out the honey - it gets worse, leaving out the Loratadine - it also gets worse, leaving both out and I can barely function on some days.

I don't know whether it's a placebo effect - I could try some control experiments and get my wife to substitute Tesco own label honey and a sugar pill in place of the anti histamines as a blind test - Can I be bothered ? It works for me, I see the benefits and I'm happy to accept that the combination of the two makes my life with hay fever liveable.

I have a lot of customers who are convinced that my local honey has an effect on their hay fever - when I am asked I tell people that it works for a lot of people and the only way to find out is to try it and see - but there's no guarantee.

There is no cure for hay fever - but in the worst cases immunotherapy is possible - where small quantities of pollen are injected into the person on a regular basis - building up immunity to some degree and perhaps the pollen found in local honey is having a similar effect - who knows ? There's apparently no appetite for any formal medical testing .. and probably never will be.

Just think how much the pharmaceuticals make each year from 'allergy' suppressants! you think they'd advise you to use local honey to see if it works ?

 

[BeeKeyPlayer]

This well-written post by Hanna Bäckmo covers the subject of honey and hay fever in a balanced and comprehensive way (IMO).

https://hannasbees.ie/hayfever-and-honey/

 

[ericbeaumont]

This well-written post by Hanna Bäckmo covers the subject of honey and hay fever in a balanced and comprehensive way (IMO).

https://hannasbees.ie/hayfever-and-honey/

Yes, pretty good piece, though the conclusion that honey does not contain pollen to which many people are allergic - grass & wind-pollinated plants - misses a link. Like all things, bees have an electrical charge and are also furry, so attract all pollen, not only those rewarding to them, simply by flying through the air.

 

[Ely]

I have had a while of feeling unbelievably low, achy with no energy due to ME and depression, to the point where I felt like I don't want to carry on. I'm never sure if ME actually exists or if it is all in my head. I'm a very sceptical person. I don't usually eat honey, but last night I had a big dollop of last summers batch on some toast. I couldn't believe how different I felt, and I can't explain why. I'm not too shiny today but I will be eating some more. If I eat cake, chocolate and stuff like that it usually makes me feel worse, not better. Maybe there is something to this anti-flammatory lark.

 

[ericbeaumont]

big dollop of last summers batch on some toast. I couldn't believe how different I felt

Could have been the toast.

 

[Ely]

Could have been the toast.

Ah but I had that in the morning with eggs on

 

[ken in NH]

In regards to honey and hay fever- ''people have said'' that it must be honey from the flowers that give you the hay fever ( ragweed for ragweed allergy), and that you will be protected THE FOLLOWING year- not right away.

 

[JamezF]

In regards to honey and hay fever- ''people have said'' that it must be honey from the flowers that give you the hay fever ( ragweed for ragweed allergy), and that you will be protected THE FOLLOWING year- not right away.

"People have said" that the world is flat, too. Unless someone does some proper scientific research into the topic, it's really no better than hearsay.

James

 

[pargyle]

"People have said" that the world is flat, too. Unless someone does some proper scientific research into the topic, it's really no better than hearsay.

James

Or as a hay fever sufferer experiencing the relief that a spoonfull of honey a day has on the symptoms !

Personal experience, perhaps, but I have tried with and without the honey, with and without the Loratadine and omitting either of them really does make the symptoms worse. I can't manage as well with just the AH or just the honey but the two together do make my hay fever bearable - they don't eliminate it but for most of my life the hay fever season for me has been an absolute misery but since I've had my own honey to take - much improved.

 

[ken in NH]

I believe gin and tonic prevents illnesses of all sort incl. malaria.

Only had Covid once - and then like a very bad flu, never had malaria..
It works!

AGREED! for me- i use alcohol ( BEER) to kill germs. works in a hospital, works at home.

 

[Sutty]

Or as a hay fever sufferer experiencing the relief that a spoonfull of honey a day has on the symptoms !

Personal experience, perhaps, but I have tried with and without the honey, with and without the Loratadine and omitting either of them really does make the symptoms worse. I can't manage as well with just the AH or just the honey but the two together do make my hay fever bearable - they don't eliminate it but for most of my life the hay fever season for me has been an absolute misery but since I've had my own honey to take - much improved.

Are you tempted to try what someone on here reported and pull pollen pellets out of the comb and eat one each day for a few weeks?

 

[JamezF]

Or as a hay fever sufferer experiencing the relief that a spoonfull of honey a day has on the symptoms !

The Placebo Effect is however very well documented. Possibly the only reliable way to tell whether it actually works would be for you to take a dose of something identical to honey in appearance and taste and compare the results to taking genuine honey, without you actually knowing which is which. Ideally the same test is done across a sufficiently large cohort of hay fever sufferers to ensure the results are statistically significant in case an improvement in your condition for example is actually down to licking the hand-carved wooden spoon you use to take the honey rather than the stainless steel spoon that everyone else uses.

James