Thymol ordering

[Greggorio]

Really sorry to ask this but where can you buy the ingredients for thymol mixture for hivermakers recipe? If I were at home I'd google it but I'm in a tent with two annoying small children and thought it might be sensible to order it ready for winter feeding.
Its much harder for me to find threads on the app than I thought so can't even find the recipe. Thymol crystals, some sort of spirit and an emulsifier is all I remember.
I can use amazon app if I can get it from there.
God children are annoying, cooking oil just poured everywhere. Should have taken my bees on holiday and left kids at home

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[Tremyfro]

Really sorry to ask this but where can you buy the ingredients for thymol mixture for hivermakers recipe? If I were at home I'd google it but I'm in a tent with two annoying small children and thought it might be sensible to order it ready for winter feeding.
Its much harder for me to find threads on the app than I thought so can't even find the recipe. Thymol crystals, some sort of spirit and an emulsifier is all I remember.
I can use amazon app if I can get it from there.
God children are annoying, cooking oil just poured everywhere. Should have taken my bees on holiday and left kids at home

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You need to put down the pad and go play with the children!
I got mine from Thornes.

 

[YorkshireBees]

You need to put down the pad and go play with the children!
I got mine from Thornes.

Do they supply them in different ages!?!?!

 

[Erichalfbee]

I sympathise
Husband and I are away for a week with his daughter and two small girls. I'm too old for this. Never again.

And yes. Thornes or any bee kit supplier.

 

[Obee1]

Tremyfros right. Go play with the kids. They will fly the nest before you know it...... So they say. I haven't had a holiday without kids for 29 years! Can't wait!
As for the recipe it's here on this thread
http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1840

I bought the thymol crystals at thornes too.

 

[Greggorio]

You havent met my kids. I'm already more stressed than I was at home. A tent in 30+ heat is not a cheerful proposition. Thornes deliver to France I hope as I can't find thymol crystals over here so far from any apiculteur website

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[B+.]

You havent met my kids.

If they're teenagers, they're probably suffering withdrawal symptoms from a lack of electronic games. You have my sympathies!

 

[For want of a better word]

WHICH ONE????

For treating syrup feed against nasty black fungus and nosema use this

Just do not tell DEFRA as the Tories need to make a few bucks from you by selling licenses to Bayer et al!!

30g Thymol dissolved in 5ml iso propyl alcohol in boiling waterbath
1 teaspoon of lecethin dissolved in 140 ml water also in boiling waterbath

mix and allow to cool
add 1ml per liter to 2;1 caster sugar syrup.

HM's recipe

C@W@Jones@@ has thymol in smaller packs
fleabytes for IPA KaKe stuff... & lecethin

lecethin works as an emulsifying agents and binds the thymol in a soluble suspension in the syrup.

simples really

Yeghes da

 

[For want of a better word]

WHICH ONE????

For treating syrup feed against nasty black fungus and nosema use this

Just do not tell DEFRA as the Tories need to make a few bucks from you by selling licenses to Bayer et al!!

30g Thymol dissolved in 5ml iso propyl alcohol in boiling waterbath
1 teaspoon of lecethin dissolved in 140 ml water also in boiling waterbath

mix and allow to cool
add 1ml per liter to 2;1 caster sugar syrup.

HM's recipe

C@W@Jones@@ has thymol in smaller packs
fleabytes for IPA KaKe stuff... & lecethin

lecethin works as an emulsifying agents and binds the thymol in a soluble suspension in the syrup.

simples really

Yeghes da

 

[Tremyfro]

...and if you can't get lecithin...use honey as it is an emulsifier too. I made mine last year and it is still fine to use.
...and kids are free ....until they are born...then they are very expensive.

 

[Greggorio]

Ok two questions. Any frenchies know where I can get these from in France.

Also how is Thymol used against varroa?

Thanks for the help so far. (Icanhopit that is the one!)

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[itma]

Lecithin (and lots of other 'food additives') can be bought in most High Street "health food shops" - mine came from Holland and Barrett.
My Thymol came from C Wynne Jones.

 

[itma]

... Any frenchies know where I can get these from in France.
...

https://www.google.fr/?gws_rd=ssl#q=lécithine&tbm=shop

Regarding Thymol against varroa, I'd strongly suggest that you start your beekeeping with a professionally formulated product such as Apiguard or ApiLifeVar. Simple, cheap, less to worry about. Maybe consider savings when you have 50+ hives.
Even if you have to go to eBay.fr to source it.
https://www.google.fr/?gws_rd=ssl#tbm=shop&q=Apilife+Var

 

[For want of a better word]

...and if you can't get lecithin...use honey as it is an emulsifier too. I made mine last year and it is still fine to use.
...and kids are free ....until they are born...then they are very expensive.

NO... do not use honey... it dissolves out in water and definitely is NOT an emulifying agent for this particular instance...
besides which you should not feed bees honey as it turns them on to robbing mode! ( according to Yates!)
.........., lecethin ( soya flower) holds the Thymol/IPA solution... in an emulsion.
The 5ml added to the 2:1 needs to be mixed in with a good shake of the bottle... when adding... and when doleing it out to the bees... do not fill container to the brim.

I did not spend 3 years studying "O" level Chemistry for nothin!

Yeghes da

 

[For want of a better word]

Holiday at the busiest time of the beekeeping year... I am complaining about the dark mornings and the nights drawing in.... have not even been out on my yacht this summer!

But Tasmania beckons..... and that unforgettable aroma of Leatherwood in bloom... that's if it has not all been cut down!


Yeghes da

 

[itma]

NO... do not use honey... it dissolves out in water and definitely is NOT an emulifying agent for this particular instance...
...

 

[Tremyfro]

NO... do not use honey... it dissolves out in water and definitely is NOT an emulifying agent for this particular instance...
besides which you should not feed bees honey as it turns them on to robbing mode! ( according to Yates!)
.........., lecethin ( soya flower) holds the Thymol/IPA solution... in an emulsion.
The 5ml added to the 2:1 needs to be mixed in with a good shake of the bottle... when adding... and when doleing it out to the bees... do not fill container to the brim.

I did not spend 3 years studying "O" level Chemistry for nothin!

Yeghes da

Strange that my thymol emulsion is ok then with just the honey to emulsify the thymol. Since you are feeding sugar syrup anyway...what is the difference? If the bees are going to rob...surely they will rob syrup as well as honey? In fact the amount of honey is very small. About a tablespoon to a jar...and even that is dilute in the syrup...one teaspoon per half gallon. Hardly feeding honey!
I also did my stint in the chemistry labs...although I think I spent a fair amount of time staring out of the window...in boredom!

 

[For want of a better word]

I also did my stint in the chemistry labs...although I think I spent a fair amount of time staring out of the window...in boredom!

Obviously!

Yeghes da

 

[Greggorio]

I'd wonder how they'd detect that much honey. Also Ted Hooper says you can put supers back on for the bees to clean which would have more honey than tremyfro would be adding to his syrup mixture

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[For want of a better word]

I'd wonder how they'd detect that much honey. Also Ted Hooper says you can put supers back on for the bees to clean which would have more honey than tremyfro would be adding to his syrup mixture

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Lot of faffing... I store mine wet .... unless going back on for more supering off of stores
(noting colony the super came from of course!)

Yeghes da