do you know, i think the bloody lot of them are only one step removed from the scroungers on the dole.
Jobs for life
Wrong. Firstly many teachers have been in other occupations before teaching many leave teaching and go into other occupations and many are made redundant - Juts like in the private sector.
Wrong again. Long periods when the children don't go into school and they aren't required to be on the premises. Much of which is used in marking and preparations of lessons, keeping up with changes in the syllabus and for those who are teaching subjects like science and ICT keeping up with discoveries and changes.
Wrong yet again. For many teachers the school day starts at 7:00am and finishes at 5 or 6 with the occasional parents evenings lasting until 9 or 10. Certainly no teacher can cope with just being on site and working during the hours the children are.
non-contributory pensions
Guess what! Wrong again. They do pay contributions.
in the private sector (the one that actually contributes FINANCIALLY to the running of this country through rents, rates, taxes, ni, more taxes on capital gains, bonuses etc)
Not much you can tell me about the private sector I have been over the years a partner in 4 businesses.
they are also facing the change to pension schemes....and it means small employers will legally have to offer a pension to all workers...and they will (worker & employer) have to contribute to it...so why are the public sector complaining so much
Firstly see my comment immediately above. Simply put because because not 4 years ago the pensions were changed and announced as OK. In the case of the teachers because it is deferred pay. They have accepted pay levels below those they could earn in other jobs for the security and a half way decent pension. They rightly object to having that taken away from them after they have in many cases worked for a lot of years on a contract which promised them certain conditions. You will be familiar with breach of contract in the private sector. Why should the government be allowed to get away with it.
you've had it TOO GOOD FOR TOO LONG. Time to shake the bloody lot of you up just like Maggie did in the 1980s with the miners.
I take it from this comment that you are in favour of people being allowed to break contracts willy nilly. If not then the government should not be breaking this contract.
I'm sick and tired of hearing how these hard pressed public sector workers have to struggle on their incomes.
Nobody has suggested they are struggling any more than anyone else on their wages. Do please stick to the point of the discussion.
The rest of us do and WE PAY YOUR BLOODY WAGES.
The rest of you pay part of public sector wages. If we say 25% is taken in tax that pays 1/3 of the take home pay of the public service worker. The VAT they pay from the rest pays another slice.
You're lucky to have a job
First on a point of order I haven't I am retired.
Secondly you may not have noticed but public service workers are currently bearing the brunt of redundancies due to government cuts.
I am assuming that this rant is tongue in cheek. If it isn't then you had better start to refuse all the service provided by public services - fire, health, sanitation, road maintenance (yes I know some will claim they aren't maintained), education etc etc as you clearly don't feel the jobs need done.
I would also suggest you make sure your facts are right, it is as used to be said when I was in education - "everyone is an expert in education because they have been to school. You statements above about teaching MAY have been correct in the 1960s ( and that is only MAY) but not since.
I met quite a few of the higher echelon in my career.. all were most pleasant intelligent people... even this guy !
