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betterbee

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found this link interisting and verry informative,verry surprised how large area is on map and how easy foraging areas with frienda apiaries can overlap
enjoy
martin
http://bees.morkland.org/coverage/
 
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found this link interisting and verry informative,verry surprised how large area is on map and how easy foraging areas with frienda apiaries can overlap
enjoy
martin
http://bees.morkland.org/coverage/

What an interesting tool ... my idea of what constituted even ONE mile of 'as the bee flies' foraging area was wildly out.

Living in the centre of a town completely throws out your perception of what constitutes a mile in a straight line - and I can now see why my bees, generally, fly Northwards. Never thought to get a map out and a pair of compasses .... this makes it dead easy. Thanks ... everyone should have a go.
 
What an interesting tool ... Thanks ... everyone should have a go.

Ideal for moving hives and how far apart your apiaries are

Am I being overly cynical in thinking that it is actually an ideal tool for building a database of apiary locations?

Personally, I find a (geometry set) compass and an OS map gives me a pretty good idea of distances ...
 
Am I being overly cynical in thinking that it is actually an ideal tool for building a database of apiary locations?

Possibly ... but I can understand why...

Personally, I find a (geometry set) compass and an OS map gives me a pretty good idea of distances

Yes ... just never got round to it ... but does the same job.
 
LOVE this !!! I was amazed...when I get in the car and drive for 8 minutes to walk on the common? The bees I see could well be mine...hee hee surreal!

:sorry: Easily pleased, always been my problem - ask my husband ;)
 
Am I being overly cynical in thinking that it is actually an ideal tool for building a database of apiary locations?

How so? Do you mean if someone clicks, wherever, on the map it may be recorded? If so, they have a couple of apiaries in the middle of the north sea!
 
Am I being overly cynical in thinking that it is actually an ideal tool for building a database of apiary locations?

How so? Do you mean if someone clicks, wherever, on the map it may be recorded? If so, they have a couple of apiaries in the middle of the north sea!

Well, there is the potential within any programme like this to, secretly, record locations that are identified ... and I suppose that information, if collated, would be valuable to potential thieves but it's commercial value, without any contact details being recorded, would be negligible. It may collect the IP address of the computer but I didn't find any cookies being deposited when I looked up my location.

With the hive thefts experienced last year it is no wonder that people view, with scepticism, anything that benefits beekeepers without seeking to charge them, use their details for marketing purposes or target their hives for illicit purposes. It appears, on the face of it, to be purely a philanthropic site and I would be very disappointed to discover that it had some hidden purpose.
 
it may not save cookies on your computer but every click on the map HAS to send coordinate data to central server. It couldn't work otherwise UNLESS the maps were all downloaded in their entirety to your computer first. which they aren't.
 
it may not save cookies on your computer but every click on the map HAS to send coordinate data to central server. It couldn't work otherwise UNLESS the maps were all downloaded in their entirety to your computer first. which they aren't.

Yes ... I was thinking of cookies and trojans more from the point of view of subsequent activity on my computer being 'harvested'. Without associated data the points on a map are just that ... albeit identifying a hive location if they were intent on providing information for potential thieves.

It's a bit too obvious in my book to be anything other than what it appears to be ... but who knows ?

Oh ... and it appears to originate in FINLAND !!
 
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Every time you click your mouse there is a danger of disclosing personal data ,the maps in this programme are updated now show my apiay/hives clearly,never thought about security .had afew hours fun with the programme looking at distances between friends apiaries verry suprised how close some were to each other,seem to be sharing forage with quite a few,now add in the thought of isolation mating of queens wit the greater distances you would need to be on an island ,used for the good of apiary locations can even see potrntial forage,no harm intended posting it
 
Hivetracks lets you see other peoples colonies.
It's very easy to tick the box when setting up your data that prevents your apiaries from being on the public map.
 
Just knowing the rough location isn't going to help a thief.

Lets face it, there is guaranteed bee hives in every town and village. Unless the exact location is known it won't help.

I could probably tell you where mine are and you would still have a job finding them!!!

This is just a nifty little tool, nothing more.
 
Martin thanks for the link:
According to the map 3 of my apiaries overlap! A complete surprise to me!
I wonder if the collection of bees in my van return home after I have visited all the apiaries?
 
Could not believe it i share foraging area with 3 friends ,going on visits by road u would never realize it,,now i know how my innocent little bees can turn nasty one of my friends has some nasty ;;;;s
and he does not believe in culling out undesirable traits
martin
 
What an interesting tool ... my idea of what constituted even ONE mile of 'as the bee flies' foraging area was wildly out.

Living in the centre of a town completely throws out your perception of what constitutes a mile in a straight line - and I can now see why my bees, generally, fly Northwards. Never thought to get a map out and a pair of compasses .... this makes it dead easy. Thanks ... everyone should have a go.
thanks for the link just been on.
 
If you're really worried about the server saving apiary information, you can get a circle of given radius drawn automatically using the "Radius Around Point Map". http://www.freemaptools.com/radius-around-point.htm

Either write in the location in the box above the map or keep zooming in until you get to the right place, then set the radius in the box below the map, click and it does the circle for you.
 
I'm a wannabe beekeeper who is learning as much as I can before taking some bees on next season. I have picked out a location for my hives and was amazed how far the forage area extended when viewed on this tool! My respect for the bees has increased ten fold!
 

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