Poly hive prices in Uk and Finland

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Finman

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Hive Type
Langstroth
Poly..............UK......FIN
lang brood.....£ 22.5....£ 12

medium/
lang super.....£ 19.....£ 10
feeder...........£ 22.....£ 12


UK prices are 90% higher
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Frame sticks ..... Fin £ 34.5 / 100 frames Lang and medium same price.

UK £140-160 / 100 frames

Price in UK 2.3 fold

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Oil prices and beer are cheaper in England than in Finland

Yeghes da

I think that we have same international oil prices

then state puts tax above the price.


Diesel price in UK 110
in Finland .............96

UK is 15% over Finland
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I think that we have same international oil prices

then state puts tax above the price.


Diesel price in UK 110
in Finland .............96

UK is 15% over Finland
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Beer ( Good quality Cornish beer!) still far far cheaper than in Finland... and our heating oil is at lowest price since the massive increases after the Tories formed the coalition with the now defunct Liberals!

Nos da
 
Rather than dismissing this price difference we should be asking why in a free economy we are still paying twice as much in the UK as the rest of Europe for bee hives and other products? It doesn't cost that much to bring them across the channel.
UK is a rip off for many things..
 
Well if you will go to your easiest supplier............

I get them for less than Finmans prices.

UK's big problem is a tiny and deeply fragmented market. Everybody wants their own favourite variant, inventory levels at dealers are thus far too high of slow moving stock, and orders are so small it costs a lot to service them.

I bang the same drum again and again....stop being so individualistic and do association purchasing. Get quotes from a lot of places and don't be parochial. You might be amazed.

It costs the trader just about the same to service a two hive client as a 100 hive client and they need their time paying for. The headline prices are for the small order, and a good bit of the price is a handling charge effectively.
 
However, if you ever try to buy equipment from abroad, you are hit with a barrage of bank charges and transport costs.
You are probably right though Finman. So much for a level playing field in Europe
Credit card and large orders soon sort those minor details out.
Not necessarily 1/2 price but getting on that way.
 
The main issue in the UK is so little competition. T*****S are by far the biggest supplier and if you buy frames from others they are often T*****s in disguise.
We only have a few suppliers and they are happy to let the biggest competitor set a market rate and either match their prices to this price or just slightly under.
We do not have enough suppliers for the laws of supply and demand to apply so we end up with a price fixing cartel whether by intention or default you can decide.
The other issue is our use of hives which are generally only used in the UK.
Finman can buy his hives, which I assume are Langstroths, anywhere in the EU. The Finnish suppliers know this and therefore have to remain competitive.
 
Prices are odd.......I remember not long ago buying brood boxes in from the USA....and the finished fronts and backs were cheaper, including transport and duty, than the equivalent unfinished lumber per metre here.
 
Poly hive prices is not the whole picture. What are wages, cost of living house prices in Finland compared to UK? Things like health and longevity come into play as well.

AND the price and quality of beer!
Off for a quick pint or two of Trelawny £2 pint at happy hour!

YEGHES DA !!
 
Poly..............UK......FIN
lang brood.....£ 22.5....£ 12

medium/
lang super.....£ 19.....£ 10
feeder...........£ 22.....£ 12


UK prices are 90% higher
...................................................................................

Frame sticks ..... Fin £ 34.5 / 100 frames Lang and medium same price.

UK £140-160 / 100 frames

Price in UK 2.3 fold

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How much is it to post from there? Or drive a van full over?
 
The other issue is our use of hives which are generally only used in the UK.
Finman can buy his hives, which I assume are Langstroths, anywhere in the EU. The Finnish suppliers know this and therefore have to remain competitive.

Not really. Langstroth is probably most popular but the Dadant Blatt is also widely used.

Then you have local variants in almost every country....often called the National.......but their own National, not the same as ours....and there is Voirnot, Layens, Lav Normal........and so it goes on. BUT, in each country there is generally one dominant international standard hive and one dominant domestic type. Stock holding easy.

The issue of scale, and the density of larger beekeepers helps, but also the fact most Europeans are very content to shop around and buy from non domestic suppliers. In the UK fora I have been slated for advocating this as if it almost makes you some kind of traitor. Competition for both suppliers and clients keeps things sharp. However, we are the architects of our own demise in the UK, and possibly Ireland too. The way we want things COSTS us big time.

There are so many hive patterns in use here that it is almost considered funny elsewhere....with some justification.......and the average UK beekeeper has six hives, strip out the big boys and that drops to four. In other countries its generally a good bit more, so orders are larger and economies of scale come into play. There are also beekeeping co-operatives that bulk source for their members, but that would struggle to work here due to disagreement on the spec of what to buy. 10 beekeepers in a room and the minimum number of opinions is 11.

Until the UK smaller scale beekeepers stop wanting their own pet hive type and cannot settle on at most say 3 types, than it will be a permanent situation. Its the high cost of order servicing and stock preparation and holding that costs the big money. I can pretty well guarantee that UK suppliers are not making big money.
 

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