Phone signals?

[Poly Hive]

Anyone know of a study as per this:

there were several studies a few years back in different countries, this study was about the effect of mobile phones on bee colonies. all found that the more powerful phones caused a swarming signal amongst the girls.

PH

 

[MartinL]

Anyone know of a study as per this:

there were several studies a few years back in different countries, this study was about the effect of mobile phones on bee colonies. all found that the more powerful phones caused a swarming signal amongst the girls.

PH

So, what's the most powerful "Phone"?

Are we talking power consumption, Battery power, signal output or area phone signal?

Sounds to me?

 

[Anduril]

Anyone know of a study as per this:

there were several studies a few years back in different countries, this study was about the effect of mobile phones on bee colonies. all found that the more powerful phones caused a swarming signal amongst the girls.

PH

Just a few links
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/gizmod...-to-swarm-to-their-death-says-a-new-study/amp

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/phys...-contributing-honeybee-population-decline.amp

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ear...sponsible-for-disappearance-of-honey-bee.html

 

[Anduril]

https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s13592-011-0016-x.pdf
I think this is the paper

 

[Poly Hive]

Many thanks Andruil.

PH

 

[Teemore]

I cant point you to anything definitive save that a few years ago I got a call from my Uncle to say there was a programme about beekeeping in Greece on television. I was driving using my hands free at the time and when I got home the programme was over... I chatted to my Uncle later and he summarised the programme by saying that a Greek beekeeper felt that he was encountering unsually high levels of colony losses. He made a connection between this and the proliferation of mobile phone masts. He took his mobile phone and went looking for areas with no mobile phone reception. He located his hives in the areas with no mobile phone reception. Over a period of time his colony losses were much reduced.

My initial thinking was that areas with no mobile phone signal were likely to be less developed and have a greater variety and quantity of forage available for bees over a longer period of time. Better forage = healthier bees.

Perhaps this will remind a forumer about the programme and they can point you in another direction....

 

[MadAnt]

AFAIK there is lots of different studies related to EMR(both cellphone and tower). Many conspiracy theories as well. As a fact - bees are sensitive to EMR(same as any other alive creature. How badly they are affected? Hard to tell - to many differents factors involved, include skills of beek. I know someone, who keeps his bees under 110kV power line. You can guess his "winter loss".

 

[Finman]

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Phones use ordinary radio waves. You surely not have on Britain places where are not radio waves.

So, waves reduce honey yield.

Our cows have vanished. That I can say.

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[Beefriendly]

AFAIK there is lots of different studies related to EMR(both cellphone and tower). Many conspiracy theories as well.

I live in a small village that had no mobile phone signal for several years. 2 years ago they installed a nearby mast and mobile reception is now excellent. Can't say I've noted any detrimental affect in winter survival or honey yields per hive before or after.

 

[shudderdun]

Couple of weeks ago I was sat watching my bees from 4 meters away. I decided to make a hands free call from my mobile phone, whereupon a bee took a direct beeline to my phone and immediately started to try to sting the screen, failing to do so it settled on stinging me on the wrist, ouch !

 

[Finman]

Couple of weeks ago I was sat watching my bees from 4 meters away. I decided to make a hands free call from my mobile phone, whereupon a bee took a direct beeline to my phone and immediately started to try to sting the screen, failing to do so it settled on stinging me on the wrist, ouch !

One out of 100 000 bees?

 

[shudderdun]

Got off lightly then as I have two colonies, might have got stung twice, haha !!!

 

[Finman]

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I got a swarm from a hive, which has lived on the church corner for years.

I went to look the hive two days ago and they attacked on me and stung, even if I did not touch the hive. Somehow they knew that I do not belong to any church.

 

[shudderdun]

"Holy Smoke" !!!

 

[Millet]

I believe it to be total rubbish, a few years after mobile phones arrived we where told they cause brain tumors and all kinds of rubbish none of that scare mongering has ever happened or been proven lately and we use mobile phones freely today with no problems, if you want to blame anyone for killing large numbers of bees, blame the Government and farmers spraying **** Chemicals everywhere.
Honey bees have survived for millions of years very well, but us as humans are destroying the planet and not only are the bees suffering through peoples greed.
Money and greed will Destroy us all one day and this planet will end up like the Moon.
Rant over... for now

 

[wessexmario]

... a Greek beekeeper felt that he was encountering unusually high levels of colony losses. He made a connection between this and the proliferation of mobile phone masts. He took his mobile phone and went looking for areas with no mobile phone reception. He located his hives in the areas with no mobile phone reception. Over a period of time his colony losses were much reduced ...

There might be many other factors to explain that result:
less mobile reception implies less dense human population, so the actual cause could equally be from less pollution, better forage, or any other factor that increases or reduces as you get further away from higher densities of humans.
It could even be that as the hives were further away from his normal location, they benefited from better planning of what he did with reduced time when he did visit them, or from visiting less frequently.
The micro-climate around the hives is important and makes a big difference, he could have moved the hives from a north facing slope to a south east facing slope.
There are far too many unmeasured variables to draw conclusions from those sorts of report.

 

[Finman]

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5 km from me I have here 320 m high radio mast. It is as high as Eiffel tower. IT is radio and TV mast.

This area gives very good yields. Sometimes average yield has been 130 kg/hive.

There are 3 beekeepers under that mast and all get good yields.

We have everywhere here mobile support boxes.

I cannot see any idea, that phone waves affect honey yield or into swarming.

But every one can keep his faith.

If some place does not give good yield, I move to better place. If bees se arm too much, I change the genepool. Phone waves cannot beat me.

One guy's all hives swarm and one guy's do not swarm at all. Draw from that.
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[MartinL]

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5 km from me I have here 320 m high radio mast. It is as high as Eiffel tower. IT is radio and TV mast.
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TV would be UHF. So not the frequency of cell phones?

 

[Brian Bush]

A couple of years ago I went with a friend to his apiary that contained 'difficult' bees.Upon opening the second hive he received a call on his work phone. He was 'on call' and had to answer it. He walked about 20m away and I continued to inspect the hive. The bees were no problem to me but his hand holding the phone, side of his hood and shoulder were covered in aggressive bees. I now always advise people to not answer their phone if they are in or near an apiary.

 

[Hebeegeebee]

"....and constantly playing the France info program" The bees obviously objected. Maybe Radio 3 would be better?