Just a Thought about Clipping the Queens Wings...

[For want of a better word]

- it's not even funny any more

Wasn't exactly funny in the first place!..........

Never work with animals or children !

 

[sunhivebee]

Oh look. Country File is on, lets see if someone get stung in the face by a Bee tonight, if so we should try and educate the hive owner into a lesser naïve and more responsible style of beekeeping and introduction to honey bees, but so far I have only seen sensible beekeepers. Which goes to show, it made sense to wear a bee suit on TV, unless you want to be remembered on TV for being irresponsible ...

Ok, I see it's time I engaged with the inventive genius from Norfolk directly. He started this thread in the hope of gaining some support for his fiendish idea of glueing a queen's wings together, thus clearly demonstrating to what lows "responsible beekeeping" by his interpretation can sink.

Since then he has deemed necessary to slur my beekeeping by reference to an incident on a tv programme a year ago. Perhaps he ought to view something else now to get some more inspiration regarding other beekeepers' ways of doing things here: (commercial link to own website deleted.)or find some new angles of attack. Good luck, bee-kee-pur, in your future endeavour with bees, I think you need it.

I for one, shall do my best to refer the next tv producer who comes my way to you for some really innovative ideas on swarm control. Regrettably, I am not entirely confident that the general public. increasingly concerned about the honeybee's health and vitality, would warm to ideas such as you introduced this thread with; it would seem that aberrant ideas as to how to exercise control over colonies need to be kept strictly private.

In the meantime, I recommend that you also keep very very quiet indeed about such lofty matter as "responsible" beekeeping.

With best wishes

Heidi

 

[Vramin]

So did you watch Bill Turnbull on Friday night ? Stood in front of hives of bees on a London roof without a veil and commenting on about how well mannered the bees were ...

I was surprised by that comment of Bills. I spend a lot of time in my apiary watching the bees, and never need protection. I was even trimming the hedges 2 feet from a hive entrance in shorts and t-shirt today.

Of course, I gear-up if I'm opening the hive.

Bill seemed to suggest that you had to wear the gear if you were anywhere near bees. Maybe I mis-understood him. I would re-queen if mine were trouble.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Ok, I see it's time I engaged with the inventive genius from Norfolk directly. He started this thread in the hope of gaining some support for his fiendish idea of glueing a queen's wings together, thus clearly demonstrating to what lows "responsible beekeeping" by his interpretation can sink.

Since then he has deemed necessary to slur my beekeeping by reference to an incident on a tv programme a year ago. Perhaps he ought to view something else now to get some more inspiration regarding other beekeepers' ways of doing things here: (commercial link to own website deleted.)or find some new angles of attack. Good luck, bee-kee-pur, in your future endeavour with bees, I think you need it.

I for one, shall do my best to refer the next tv producer who comes my way to you for some really innovative ideas on swarm control. Regrettably, I am not entirely confident that the general public. increasingly concerned about the honeybee's health and vitality, would warm to ideas such as you introduced this thread with; it would seem that aberrant ideas as to how to exercise control over colonies need to be kept strictly private.

In the meantime, I recommend that you also keep very very quiet indeed about such lofty matter as "responsible" beekeeping.

With best wishes

Heidi

Well, I know who I'd rather sit down and have a pint with

 

[Vramin]

Oh look. Country File is on ...

Rather childish, don't you think?

 

[sunhivebee]

Well, I know who I'd rather sit down and have a pint with

... very re-assuring, that. Have a pint and discuss glues ... or kaftans

 

[Cie]

I'll have a pint of cider and a chat about sun hives please Heidi

 

[sunhivebee]

Thanks, Cie, one day .... am breaking my back atm getting the garden in order, and checking all my lovely swarms.

 

[Bee-Key-Pur]

Ok, I see it's time I engaged with the inventive genius from Norfolk directly. He started this thread in the hope of gaining some support for his fiendish idea of glueing a queen's wings together, thus clearly demonstrating to what lows "responsible beekeeping" by his interpretation can sink.

Since then he has deemed necessary to slur my beekeeping by reference to an incident on a tv programme a year ago. Perhaps he ought to view something else now to get some more inspiration regarding other beekeepers' ways of doing things here: (commercial link to own website deleted.)or find some new angles of attack. Good luck, bee-kee-pur, in your future endeavour with bees, I think you need it.

I for one, shall do my best to refer the next tv producer who comes my way to you for some really innovative ideas on swarm control. Regrettably, I am not entirely confident that the general public. increasingly concerned about the honeybee's health and vitality, would warm to ideas such as you introduced this thread with; it would seem that aberrant ideas as to how to exercise control over colonies need to be kept strictly private.

In the meantime, I recommend that you also keep very very quiet indeed about such lofty matter as "responsible" beekeeping.

With best wishes

Heidi

If someone comes on and accuses me of being a naive after I simply relaying an incident, which indecently happened to me just before a thunder storm hit and I was trying to get the bees covered up, then yes, I will make comparisons.
I operate between 250 and 300 hives, on some of the most well known county estates in Norfolk, so yes, bring on the TV crew.
But what I won't do, is take advice from what I consider to be a complete incompetent fool, as demonstrated on TV, by not providing safety gear.
I don't care how long ago it happened, it demonstrated on national TV, a completely irresponsible approach to beekeeping and peoples safety.

 

[Cie]

I operate between 250 and 300 hives

I'm curious, do you spend time with your bees, observing, listening, learning or do you mainly work them? With that many hives I guess that it's mostly work.

 

[Bee-Key-Pur]

I'm curious, do you spend time with your bees, observing, listening, learning or do you mainly work them? With that many hives I guess that it's mostly work.

All of the above, I spend all day every day during the summer with my bees. Anyone that has bees will do these things you asked, it's all part of learning about bees.
But then yes, of course I work with them. I want them to be healthy, I treat them if needed, I want them to be in the best shape they can be at the start of the season and through out the year, I carry out procedures in an attempt to prevent them swarming and I work to have them in the best shape I can going into winter so that they are still alive in spring.
I take observation hives into schools and visitor centres in Norfolk to show people the fascinating life of our honey bees.
Am I doing something wrong?

 

[Cie]

Am I doing something wrong?

I've no idea

I ask because I choose to be around beekeepers such as Heidi and consequently I understand their point of view rather than yours. It's very hard not to form opinions about "those other beekeepers", and I'm trying not to. I believe that the two groups have a different focus to their beekeeping... something that will keep us apart for many years.

I question people so that I can learn and hopefully not judge.

 

[sunhivebee]

All of the above, I spend all day every day during the summer with my bees. Anyone that has bees will do these things you asked, it's all part of learning about bees.
But then yes, of course I work with them. I want them to be healthy, I treat them if needed, I want them to be in the best shape they can be at the start of the season and through out the year, I carry out procedures in an attempt to prevent them swarming and I work to have them in the best shape I can going into winter so that they are still alive in spring.
I take observation hives into schools and visitor centres in Norfolk to show people the fascinating life of our honey bees.
Am I doing something wrong?

Yes, you thought you were onto a novel idea and you presented it, even though it went down like a lead balloon, but never mind about that, and don't hide behind the thunderstorm now ..... your attitude to bees came across LOUD and CLEAR with your idea of glueing the queen;s wings together, so whilst you may not be an utterly incompetent fool (thanks for the compliment) you are most certainly one of the brutes that the world of bees need less of.
Whether you have 200 hives or 2 is perfectly immaterial.
Your insouciant posts have indeed provoked me to comment. but I rest my case here, in the optimistic hope that you have understood me.
Next time you have a great thunderstorm induced idea I shall do my best to ignore it.

 

[Bee-Key-Pur]

Next time you have a great thunderstorm induced idea I shall do my best to ignore it.

Good luck with that, I might be around a while. You can always put me on your ignore list and save use both some time.

 

[Bee-Key-Pur]

I for one, shall do my best to refer the next tv producer who comes my way

I don't think that would be necessary, most of this forum will have already seen me on TV and cinema, they just don't know it...

 

[Chris Luck]

I don't think that would be necessary, most of this forum will have already seen me on TV and cinema, they just don't know it...

Your not really Bruce Willis are you?

Chris

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I'm curious, do you spend time with your bees, observing, listening, learning

Nope - he just bumbles around with his fingers in his ears and a blindfold. That's when he's not cracking his little whip forcing the bees to 'work' harder. I've worked with him and can attest to his skill and knowledge of bees. The only strange quirk I can find is his reluctance to keep bees in a sh!t covered Ikea lampshade

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Your not really Bruce Willis are you?

Chris

Try Charles Hawtrey

 

[For want of a better word]

Try Charles Hawtrey

 

[Cie]

Nope - he just bumbles around with his fingers in his ears and a blindfold.

Is there any real need for that? Really? What are you, 12? I asked a simple question and got a simple answer, that's all that was needed.