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[misterbee82]

Will do so, I will look deeper. I will be looking through good publications. I will check the authors and their experience and certifications.

 

[For want of a better word]

I have received mixed information about Nosema, is it a disease, or simply a build up of the bees being unable to deficate for long period of time. I have received different information depending on what I've read or who I've spoke to.

Is this the Miss Information thread ?


Had a Carvery in one of Plymouths less salubrious pubs... think I may have nosema meeself!

Mytten da

 

[Erichalfbee]

I will check the authors and their experience and certifications.

That's the ticket. You have to make sure of provenance.
Start here, most of us here can vouch for Randy Oliver
http://scientificbeekeeping.com/the-nosema-twins-part-1/

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

That's awful! So sad for the family.

Think of the poor driver - usually the forgotten casualty in these train jumper cases.

 

[Erichalfbee]

My best friend's (when I was a teen) was a tube driver and he had a jumper one Boxing day. I was round there for dinner ....we waited and waited for him to come home,it was a dreadful day. The poor chap never recovered and had to give up driving.

 

[Tremyfro]

Is this the Miss Information thread ?


Had a Carvery in one of Plymouths less salubrious pubs... think I may have nosema meeself!

Mytten da

Is it the poopy kind or the silent sneak up and zap you type?
Might be best to get elf&safety on the job. They would know the best way to squish a few bellies.

 

[Tremyfro]

Think of the poor driver - usually the forgotten casualty in these train jumper cases.

Totally agree.....my OH was a train driver all his life and I remember the last time he had a suicide jumper. He said that you can see it's going to happen and there is nothing you can do....you can't swerve or stop....you just plough through them. By the time the wheels have all run over the body there's not much left in many cases. He had to give evidence at inquests..the worst bit was describing how they hit the train.....a very traumatic time and many drivers give up. Most deal with it with macabre humour. Trains frequently hit animals...deer, sheep, dogs etc he says it's always a mess....the train has to go for cleaning...so lots of delays and often in the middle of nowhere.

 

[Tremyfro]

I have received mixed information about Nosema, is it a disease, or simply a build up of the bees being unable to deficate for long period of time. I have received different information depending on what I've read or who I've spoke to.

I don't think it is a build up of poo in my bees case....they have been flying all winter on and off. Poo deposits just appeared last week around the entrance and they seem slow to build up compared to the other colonies. So I am thinking early nosema. Going to collect some bees ...do a belly crush and see what I can find.
Then advice invited for management of this colony is invited.

 

[pargyle]

Is it the poopy kind or the silent sneak up and zap you type?

Surfeit of information warning... REPLIES NOT NEEDED !!

 

[Cussword]

Wow, far too much information. Blast from the past.
Sorry about that.

 

[pargyle]

I don't think it is a build up of poo in my bees case....they have been flying all winter on and off. Poo deposits just appeared last week around the entrance and they seem slow to build up compared to the other colonies. So I am thinking early nosema. Going to collect some bees ...do a belly crush and see what I can find.
Then advice invited for management of this colony is invited.

If there is spotting around the entrance then it's possibly Nosema Apis .. although if there's not much of it then it could just be new bees out for an orientation flight who realise the need a sh*t when it's a bit late ... probably been to the same gastro pub in Plymouth ...

If it is Apis then you have either got it or you haven't the spores get spread very rapidly over the comb and get passed on to more bees very quickly. There's no legal treatment since Fumiglin was banned so if your microscophy proves Nosema positive then you need a healthy, strong colony and probably a new queen to recover. A bit of warm weather will help as well ...

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Thymolised syrup has been found effective for Nosema C as well as A

 

[kazmcc]

An awful week of no internet....no forums...no films....no tv catchup.....no research...no kindle....I was even reduced to reading a book!
Then I remembered I could use my phone....tried to log in but couldn't remember my password...so I had to use an old log in.....from when I logged out by mistake.
Did you miss me? Using a phone is horrible.....you keep having to make the screen bigger...then you can't see what you are doing...the typing is dreadful as the letters are so small and you end up pressing the wrong letters!
Still it was lovely to just be able to read the posts for a while.....
....so who couldn't resist checking out who I was?

I understand. I'm stuck with only a mobile and its awful! Takes ages to type anything.

 

[Erichalfbee]

I understand. I'm stuck with only a mobile and its awful! Takes ages to type anything.

If I didn't have my mobile I would be completely stuck at times.
Software updates for my Mac? Forget it it....they take 2 days to download.
Looking at Boosty but probably can't justify the cost

 

[Tremyfro]

I have an iPad...it's great. No internet since last week...I didn't realise how much I was enjoying it. Didn't like using the mobile...it was too small.
I've mDe up some Hivemakers for nosema...I forgot to get a new spray bottle...so I will start treating them tomorrow.
I managed to do the belly squash...lots of tiny rice grains...so nosema is probably high on the list of reasons why this colony won't grow.
Needed wine to blot out the belly squashing! Now resting in a gentle haze....

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

I managed to do the belly squash...lots of tiny rice grains

Seriously - long grain or rissotto/pudding rice?

 

[For want of a better word]

I have an iPad...it's great. No internet since last week...I didn't realise how much I was enjoying it. Didn't like using the mobile...it was too small.
I've mDe up some Hivemakers for nosema...I forgot to get a new spray bottle...so I will start treating them tomorrow.
I managed to do the belly squash...lots of tiny rice grains...so nosema is probably high on the list of reasons why this colony won't grow.
Needed wine to blot out the belly squashing! Now resting in a gentle haze....

You would need to feed about 3 gallons of the 2:1 thymolised syrup to the bees to have any affect... most do this in Autumn... the Thymol will dissolve easily in Iso Prolyl Alcohol to make up an emulsion with lecethin.
Did I hear a "little" voice say .. honey is not a suitable emusifying agent.

Nos da

 

[Erichalfbee]

You would need to feed about 3 gallons of the 2:1 thymolised syrup to the bees to have any affect...

No, stronger than that.
5 ml of the premix in one litre of thin syrup sprayed on the bees every four days three times

 

[For want of a better word]

No, stronger than that.
5 ml of the premix in one litre of thin syrup sprayed on the bees every four days three times

Crikey ... that will ruin any chance of an uncontaminated honey harvest for the season... petrol may be the only answer.
Nos da

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Crikey ... that will ruin any chance of an uncontaminated honey harvest for the season... petrol may be the only answer.
Nos da

What honey harvest? there'll be b*gger all honey if the colony collapses so nothing to lose and all to gain