How bees vaccinate their brood.

[Finman]

The colony may be asymptomatic but the bacteria spores remain active for up to 40 years (or so I understand)

You do not understand how it goes. That comment is not relevant at all.

 

[Finman]

Many fungi cannot grow at 37, they are usually groan at 21/22oC. It's the reason humans suffer from so few fungal diseases. Athletes foot being one, which is on the bodies extremities.

Just that greenhat man explained how bees co-operate with fungi and it will solve disappearing disease.

 

[B+.]

You do not understand how it goes. That comment is not relevant at all.

then please enlighten me

 

[Thymallus]

Good to hear the bees are safe from athletes foot then.....

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And also from the numerous bacteria that cannot grow at 33 or 37oC either. It's the few that can that cause the problems.

 

[Thymallus]

Just that greenhat man explained how bees co-operate with fungi and it will solve disappearing disease.

Its termites that cultivate fungi. Someone has got their entomology wrong.

 

[kazmcc]

Its termites that cultivate fungi. Someone has got their entomology wrong.

There is a guy knocking about that noticed his bees were foraging his mushroom beds. I think I posted about it a long while ago. It's quite interesting actually, and not as crazy as it sounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAw_Zzge49c

Paul Stamets is his name, if you want to look him up.

 

[Thymallus]

It'll be bees from a crowded hive as there isn't mushroom in there.....

 

[kazmcc]

It'll be bees from a crowded hive as there isn't mushroom in there.....

*groans* haha!

 

[Finman]

There is a guy knocking about that noticed his bees were foraging his mushroom beds. .

Bees just took drinking water from wood chips. They did not forag mushrooms..

And it was not a mushroom bed. Just bark chips. And you cannot grow mushrooms like that.

 

[kazmcc]

Bees just took drinking water from wood chips. They did not forag mushrooms..

And it was not a mushroom bed. Just bark chips. And you cannot grow mushrooms like that.

Thanks Finman. My memory fails me often lol, but I knew it was along those lines

 

[beebot]

*groans* haha!

Took a while but I got there in the end.

 

[Finman]

then please enlighten me

- Move the bees into foundation hive. When bees draw combs they consume contaminated honey. Swarm does not transfer spores to a their new hive.

- Extract honey off

- Burn old combs

- Sterilize with flame the wooden parts of hive and sterilize plastic hives with 3% hot lye water.

- Get spore analysis from laboratory later to see, has the disease vanished.

- Use hive named frames in the yard that disease do not spread again.

(Not meant to those who are not able to mix water and Sugar.)

 

[beebot]

- Move the bees into foundation hive. When bees draw combs they consume contaminated honey. Swarm does not transfer spores to a their new hive.

But during this time spores are being spread by flying bees. Glad you are along way from my hives.

 

[B+.]

- Move the bees into foundation hive. When bees draw combs they consume contaminated honey. Swarm does not transfer spores to a their new hive.

This would be an offence under the Bee Diseases and Pests Control Order 2006 in the UK and I'm not convinced it would work anyway. The bees and combs would certainly be destroyed if AFB were confirmed and the equipment would be sterilised or destroyed.
http://www.nationalbeeunit.com/index.cfm?pageId=88

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

The blinkers are down so he's not going to listen - try banging your head against a brick wall - less mess and far less painful

 

[B+.]

he's not going to listen

Perhaps Finland doesn't have the same laws that we do. In the UK, he'd be committing an offence simply by not reporting suspected foulbrood disease.
Even after completing the DASH course, you still have to take a sample for analysis by APHA but you are allowed to take the necessary remedial action yourself.

 

[Finman]

Perhaps Finland doesn't have the same laws that we do. In the UK, he'd be committing an offence simply by not reporting suspected foulbrood disease.
.

Perhaps

As I said. Vain to explain. I know exactly what is your system in Britain. No need to explain.
And jenkins has always the same answer , what ever happens. Listen what, why?


We have Ari Seppälä in Finland who take care of AFB control teaching
. His company has 1500 hives and he is biggest Queen breeder in Finland

 

[Finman]

.
I just say that your knowledge about AFB spreading is based on panicking. It does not spread as you inform here in forum.

Update you knowledge . It is more panic than knowledge. Despite if your law and inspectors. Only 20 miles to Europé.

 

[Finman]

Tupla

 

[Finman]

This would be an offence under the Bee Diseases and Pests Control Order 2006 in the UK and I'm not convinced it would work anyway. ]

I just told what PhD in Sweden has reviewed in researches and you think that it is offence. And it has been published in English language in web.