Here come comes Hive Beetle !

[Finman]

You need to afford speakers who are little more clued up.
Findings suggest early European man, like bees, might also have come originally from Asia...
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/06/asian-origin-human-ancestors
Do wish you would add some factual references to back up your largely rhetoric ramblings.

That explains, why chimpanzee and gorilla are so close to **** sapiens

 

[SDM]

I'm not going back over 170 odd pages but specifically refuting your point taken from Egil's book, the key to the pie charts showing genetic origin clearly distinguishes indigenous Amm material and continental Amm material.
The 42% + of Amm indicated in the background population of our bees taken from the ras doesn't include Amm from the continent iirc.

Ahh, we'll please do the forum a favour and actually read the studies you link in future, better yet , get someone of relative intelligence to put them into simple terms for you before you accuse me of 'trolling ", "misinformation" and follow it with "iirc" , because plainly and not for the first time, you don't recall correctly.
No such pie chart exists, nor any other table or figures to support your meanderings. Only racial introgression was measured. Not where those races originated from.

 

[SDM]

One indisputable fact emerged.... if importation of bees from possibly infected areas is allowed to continue....

Here come comes Hive Beetle !

What genius followed "fact" with "possibly' ?
If the rest of Europe is possibly infected then so are we by exactly the same means.
Sad really that in the absence of a bee to do the talking for them , groups like this resort to lies and fear mongering.

 

[mbc]

Ahh, we'll please do the forum a favour and actually read the studies you link in future, better yet , get someone of relative intelligence to put them into simple terms for you before you accuse me of 'trolling ", "misinformation" and follow it with "iirc" , because plainly and not for the first time, you don't recall correctly.
No such pie chart exists, nor any other table or figures to support your meanderings. Only racial introgression was measured. Not where those races originated from.

Figures 5.11 to 5.14

Thanks

 

[For want of a better word]

You need to afford speakers who are little more clued up.
Findings suggest early European man, like bees, might also have come originally from Asia...
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2012/06/asian-origin-human-ancestors
Do wish you would add some factual references to back up your largely rhetoric ramblings.

Next year we will invite you to speak as quite obviously you are the forums most knowledgeable member as far as absolutely everything to do with bees is concerned.

 

[SDM]

Figures 5.11 to 5.14

Thanks

Jeeze , you're struggling aren't you.

"Fig 5.11 to 5.14 show the component RACES of the breeding programme samples"

It makes no distinction as to where in Europe those samples were imported from.

 

[Beefriendly]

Next year we will invite you to speak.

That's very kind, but I shall politely decline. Talking to brainwashed muppets is not on my "to do" list.

 

[For want of a better word]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/ukne...olved/ar-BB102sQt?li=AAnZ9Ug&ocid=mailsignout

Topical but irrelevant
What would be more of a problem to the beekeeper today?
VD or SHB ?

 

[mbc]

Jeeze , you're struggling aren't you.

"Fig 5.11 to 5.14 show the component RACES of the breeding programme samples"

It makes no distinction as to where in Europe those samples were imported from.

From the discussion, page 137
"Some importation of other A. m. mellifera races may also have taken place to bolster purity. Relatively large proportions of the Stratford A colony (23%) were composed of French type mellifera (figure 5.14). These alleles were also found in the Mull population (figure 5.11) (A: 38%, B: 13%). "

 

[Erichalfbee]

That's very kind, but I shall politely decline. Talking to brainwashed muppets is not on my "to do" list.

That’s a little unkind?
Education is key after all.

 

[Erichalfbee]

I’m closing this thread because too many of you can’t be bothered to be civil. The continual punch ups are turning people away from posting. It’s a pity because there is some useful information here.