that would never happen in england there main reasons are that 99% of all farmers are idiots and wont get off there tractot seats
Farmers are not idiots Pete, and you'll take that statement back if you don't mind. The vast majority are extremly hard working and very commited custodians of the countryside. Their income is a joke if you compare the financial commitment in their land and machinery, like for like with those in the city.
and secondly the general public does not have any idea what a farmer does, farmers have disengaged completly from the public arena and as such shot the selves in the backside big time.
Surely that's not the farmers fault, they are there doing their work 16 hours a day, it's the general public who have disengaged themselves from the countryside...................well the countryside which produces the food that is, they all love a walk in the park or demand their rights to walk across privately owned land.
dont go down the route of farmers markets as they only repesent a very small part of the industry,
Of course they do, how could someone producing 10,000 litres of milk a day sell
any at a Farmer's Market? all they could do is turn up with the half dozen eggs their chickens have laid.
and a lot of the market leaders/ drivers inventers are new farmers rather than old farmers , so if you realy want to change the industry. get all the old farmers that still do things the old way and stick them in a fielda and shoot them all. get rid of all the apathetic morons get fresh blood into farming.
It's time you went onto a proper farm Pete and looked at the average age of a farmer or his staff. In 10 years time they will all be gone anyway so there's no need to shoot them. What exactly are you going to replace them with? You won't get young people, the hours are too long, the commitment too great and the financial rewards too little. There may be a few young dynamic ones around, but if you looked properly you would find that the old ones are there with the new ideas just as much, and in any case government legsislation and financial constraints ensure that only the strongest and most commited have survived this last 10 years.
whether you do massive co ops or not, tesco's still wont deal with you. if you dont sell milk to them,
Whilst not condoning the supermarkets past actions here, they are trying to put things right and offering locally produced milk and contracts to suit a wider range of producers, not just Tesco but Waitrose, Asda and others too.
they will fly it in from africa evan cheaper then before,
I'll take this one
as tongue in cheek, Eastern Europe is the place where cheap milk comes from, the unfortunate fact of life
is if there is a shortage milk
will be imported, the production methods and animal welfare standards are well below ours - even in Eire which is supposd to be the same as us
its the whole strangle hold on the market these people have that needs to be broken down
You do have a point here, but milk production/distribution (for example) has always been controlled. Up until the Second World War, this country (being part of the Commonwealth) a lot of out food was imported, which is why Hitler managed to put such a stranglehold on our food supplies. After the war, the government set up the Milk Marketing board and all milk produced was sold to them, at the time it was for farmers a license to print money. But it encouraged more efficient production and the breeding of better cows. Then a cow produced 5 - 10 lites of milk twice a day, 30 litres twice a day is not uncommon now, the same cow who still eats and sh*ts. The milk marketing board was eventually disbanded and a more open market place set up, but quotas were introduced as we were hopelessly over producing.
Farmers have consistently, since the Second World War worked hard at producing enough food for us, enough and more, they've grafted, upgraded constantly to keep up with demand and all we can do it kick them in the teeth and call them idiots for doing exactly
what has been asked of them by successive governments. They don't overspray their fields with toxic chemicals, nor set the wrong seed at the wrong time of year, nor are they walking round with a bit of straw in their teeth going "doh". They are commited intelligent individuals who deserve better, and they deserve our support.
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